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What the Xserve EOL means to us…
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I have been trying for two years to get Adobe to provide any support or bug fixes for Encore. Including personal meetings with high-level executives and the India development team at NAB in April. Promises, but no results. Key people leaving Adobe. No internal knowledge or testing of real-life Blu-ray authoring with Encore. No way for the small Encore India team to get their fixes into the CS5 releases.
A fix which I documented and explained to the India team last March, which they implemented in a test build and showed me at NAB in April, still has not made it into any Encore release.
True, Encore is very low on the CS5 totem pole. The CS5 release was already in the works and it was too late to include this fix. But 7 months later, and never another Encore release? No fixes for the many bugs in Encore CS4 over its life?
At least Apple was honest enough not to promise anything for Blu-ray when they knew that trying to cobble a Blu-ray solution onto DVD Studio Pro was never going to work.
I was an Adobe employee for 3 years after they bought our previous company. They had lots of very smart programmers and scientists. But I fear they have lost their way with offshore development, not because the offshore people are not smart, but because there is a complete management disconnect for testing and bug fixing.
Regards,
Larry Applegate
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[Will Griffith] “Jeremy.. I don’t want to use CS5, but Apple is forcing our hand here.”
Really? Have you even looked around?
Grande Vitesse makes 1U servers that run OSX. That’s what I’m saying.
I hear you about the FCP suite, but whatever it’s not dead yet. Until I see the equivalent press release from Apple about FCS, it’s still on the vine. When the EOL’d Shake, Apple told us about it. When they EOL’d XRaid, they told us about it, and now this recent news, they told us about it.
At least they are giving you a little notice?
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Why in the world would I get a hacked 1U solution when I can just build a PC myself
that is faster and cheaper?And how long before OSX Server is dead?
BTW… XRaid EOL was instant. So quick that it was impossible to get spare drives!
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[Will Griffith] “Why in the world would I get a hacked 1U solution when I can just build a PC myself
that is faster and cheaper?And how long before OSX Server is dead?”
The end is near. We are all going to die.
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Larry.. it is bad all around on this.
Avid is having a big party right now. Their faces are sore from laughing and giggling with delight.
🙁
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https://www.macworld.com/article/155495/2010/11/mactech.html
Just might give you a different perspective…
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
DVD:https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup
8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays
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Here is what is odd. I was at that conference and there was not a specific discussion about this as Rob alludes to. There were definitely discussions about it, however. The general consensus from those who regulalyr sell and install XServes was a whopping WTF!!!
The MacPro is not a replacement for multiple reasons, not the least of which are the lack of LOM and inefficient rackspace use. 2 boxes taking up 12RU is absurd.
One must really question where Apple is going here. If Apple is planning something better, great, but unlike the consumer space, people running businesses can not stomach Apple’s love of surprises. Businesses don’t like surprises. They like to plan. Then again, Apple has never really cared enough about the Enterprise or Pro space.
If Apple cared about the Pro space, for instance, don’t you think we would have current Nvidia-based graphics cards? A fully functional QuickTime X/QTkit? Final Cut Truly Pro? But I digress.
Apple, you are either in it to win or you are not. If you could only put the same amount of effort you put into the consumer space, then maybe, we wouldn’t be in this situation.
If Apple doesn’t do some damage control here, I think it will make a lot of people question not only Apple’s commitment to these markets, but these people will have to question whether their needs can be met by Apple. If actions speak louder than words, then there are way too many unanswered questions.
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sorry guys but for XSan deployments i see no alternative to XServe.
Form factor of Macpro is simply not adequate for mid/large scale deployments (unless you expand your machine room just for that) and macmini is simply ridicolous.In my opinion Xserve EOL is posing a big threat to survival of XSan deployments and possibly questions regarding real Apple committment to Pro market in the future.
My 2 cents.
Ale.“Editing is 80% diplomacy and 20% actual skill”
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No doubt every application can always be better. Encore is no different. The fact remains though that it does provide many aspects of blu-ray authoring on a Mac platform and it has improved version over version. In addition, your product will extend its functionality – this is all good news for the Mac platform and its pro users.
As for this thread, as many have stated, any one of the big three editors can probably fill the job. Avid, Apple and Adobe all have their pros and cons. Only the users can determine if Premiere Pro can replace FCP for them.
As to Adobe’s commitment to the pros in the video space – Adobe was in the video business before Apple and remains committed to it to this day. Adobe was first to develop on Apple’s cocoa platform of the big three (oh, the irony!). Adobe is also the first to develop GPU hardware acceleration…etc…
Adobe doesn’t have a Final Cut Server or an Avid Interplay, but Premiere Pro can hang off the storage of either. People should do their research, ask questions and hopefully make the decision that is best for them. For some, this will be Adobe – others not.
And for my disclaimer – I am an active Adobe employee…
Dennis
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If history repeats itself, seems to me that Apple came up with an alternative to the xserve Raid when it went away, and they could easily do a deal with someone to create a server which is compatible too?
That was what folks were talking about in that article, right?
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
DVD:https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup
8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX Cinema Displays
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