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Jittery text on DVD Playback
Ok, I just finished authoring my DVD and it looked great on my PC and on standard tv’s. However, when I play it back on my bigscreen DLP, there is a section of the movie where I have billboard text that jitters up and down like it can’t lock onto the image properly.
I exported 16 bit billboard text animations out of after effects. I applied the flicker filter at a low setting since I didn’t want the text to get too muddy. The entire program is SD.
If anyone has any advice on how to try and keep this text clear, I’m all ears. The text itself is a bold font and it’s not sized too small. I’ve had text smaller than this stay crisp when using it for lower thirds, so I’m not sure why this is acting up.
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What codec did you export out of after effects? Does it match your final cut sequence settings? Is it interlaced? Also if the font is serif instead of san serif you may have problems.
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I exported out of AE as a 16 bit quicktime movie using animation compression at 100% quality. Once in FCP I had my timeline set with ProRes 422 HQ settings. I rendered everything out and exported as a QT movie. I then brought it into compressor and used the DVD High Quality 90 minutes setting.
The font is sans seriff. Not sure where I would find the interlace setting. Should I have exported my quicktime movie from FCP using proRes as well? I used it to render for my sequence settings but wasn’t sure if I should export it that way too.
If anyone has a bullet point workflow for clean results, I’ll follow it to the letter.
Thanks.
Dragzz
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Why don’t you use one of the Cow tools and send us a sample, either a still or video, so we have a better idea of what the darned thing looks like.
BTW, your workflow sounds pretty decent to me…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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My workflow should be pretty good. I used the info you gave me last week and it helped a lot (-;
My problem is that the text looks great in stills. It looks great on the DVD when I play it on the computer, and it looks fine on a regular tv. It’s just on my bigscreen dlp that I’m having issues. I’m going to try previewing the DVD on my friend’s tv tomorrow and if it looks good there, then I’m going to think it’s something with my tv. It’s a 6-year old DLP and sometimes the signal strength looks a little weak to me to begin with, so I want to check the DVD on a few other sets before I proceed. I’ll keep you posted on my progress.
BTW, when I export my QT movies out of FCP that I plan on compressing for DVD, should I use the standard ntsc dv quicktime defaults, or should I use the Apple ProRes NTSC settings? My timeline is set at ProRes 422 HQ. Thanks again for all of your help.
Dragzz
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Never use the DV codec for anything if you can help it. It screws up text and graphics more than any single thing there is.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Export a quicktime movie with current settings. Don’t transcode to another codec, particularly Dv which will mush your graphics and potentially cause blocking artifacts in the DVD to be worse.
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I always thought the default settings were DV NTSC 48 kHz?
So what setting, from the dropdown, is the best setting to use when editing standard DV footage that has after effects animations (as qt movies) cut in?
Dragzz
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Personally I finish all SD in an uncompressed 10 bit timeline. Next best is ProRes.
That way the final file is rendered in a codec that doesn’t degrade graphics & text and also it means that grades and other processing are rendered at a higher 10 bit codec.
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Once your edit is complete, simply change the compressor in Sequence>>Settings to ProRes then re-render the timeline. It will leave all of your graphics and text pristine, and when you export a self contained file it will be a Pro Res file.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Ok, I’m sorry to still be seeking clarification. I’ve done what you asked in selecting my sequence and then re-rendering the timeline using prores. My question is, when I then go to export using quicktime to create a self contained movie, do I just leave the “setting” drop down at “Current Settings”, or do I need to go and select “Apple Pro Res 422 NTSC”?
Thanks.
Dragzz
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