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  • Mixing SD, HD, PAL, NTSC…ugh!

    Posted by Samantha Bode on September 23, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    Hello Everyone!
    I would like some advice on a project that I am about to start cutting. We have a lot of mixed footage, as the main footage was shot HDV1080i50, we have some archival footage that is DV PAL, and some more archival footage that is DV NTSC.

    We want our final product to be output as HDV1080i60.

    So, what I thought was the easiest, least messy way to deal with this sitatuion was to put all athe DV PAL footage and DV NTSC footage into a sequences that is HDV1080i60 with a frame rate of 29.97 and rendering them.

    I am a little paranoid, however, as we had some issues last week outputting an HDV1080i60 sequence that contained Super 8 video. The super 8 video came out very jittery. How can I prevent this from happening?

    Would anyone be able to tell me if I am on the right track? And if I am not on the right track, would you mind pointing me in the right direction?

    Any help is GREATLY appreciated!
    Samantha

    Arnie Schlissel replied 16 years, 7 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    September 24, 2009 at 12:37 am

    Hi Samantha,
    you can put in the same sequence footage with different sizes, pixels, codecs and field order. FC can cope well with that.
    What you can not do is to put together in the same sequence footage with different time bases.
    FC does a horrible job.
    Another no recommendable operation in FC is up-scaling.
    If you want to get a professional product, you need to convert all your footage to a common time-base and edit with that. And if you want that your DV footage looks OK in a 1080 frame you better use Compressor for the resizing.
    When doing these resizing and time-base changing you should export as Proress, and in the end export your full sequence as Proress instead of HDV.
    Cheers,
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Samantha Bode

    September 24, 2009 at 1:12 am

    Thanks so much for the response, Rafael!

    I will try as you suggest…keep your fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly! We are on a TIGHT deadline 🙂

    Samantha Bode

  • Samantha Bode

    September 24, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Actually, I have one more question.

    Based on the steps that Rafael said to take, in order to convert the footage to the same time bases, lets say 29.97, I can just put the pieces of footage into a sequence with a 29.97 timebase, render it, and that should do it? Or is there an extra step that I am missing?

    THANKS AGAIN!

    Samantha Bode

  • Rafael Amador

    September 24, 2009 at 3:05 am

    [Samantha Bode] ” I can just put the pieces of footage into a sequence with a 29.97 timebase, render it, and that should do it?”
    This way all the PAl and any NTSC 23’98 that you may have will look bad.
    The only solution, if you want to do everything in FC, is using the Nattress “Standard Conversion” plugins.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Arnie Schlissel

    September 24, 2009 at 3:47 am

    [Samantha Bode] “We have a lot of mixed footage, as the main footage was shot HDV1080i50”

    [Samantha Bode] “We want our final product to be output as HDV1080i60.”

    [Samantha Bode] “We are on a TIGHT deadline”

    You have a very, very big problem. You’re going to have a very long render at the end of this. Do you have a day or more for your final render?

    If your final delivery is in 60i, there’s not much sense in shooting 50i. You’ll have to live with lower image quality and cadence issues from the frame rate conversion.

    If you’re on a tight deadline, delivering in HDV requires a very long render at the end, even more so with your frame rate conversion. You can pick up an extra day or more if you can change your delivery format.

    If this were my project, I’d cut it at 1080i50, then take and uncompressed or ProRes export to a shop with a Teranex or Alchemist to do the conversion to 1080i60. They may even have a pro HDV deck to lay it off onto.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

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