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  • Apple pro res vs. Apple pro res (HQ)

    Posted by Steve Cohen on May 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Whats the difference and how much of a difference is there. Is it worth using (HQ).

    We digitize, edit and output in 8bit Uncompressed, I was thinking of changing to ProRes to save space, but don’t want to lose quality.

    We have 3 G5 Power PC’s (quad core) and 2 Intel Octocore systems, all have 8GB of Ram. I read that you can only do ProRes on an intel system. Is that true?

    Thanks.

    Steve Cohen
    Senior Editor
    O2 Media Inc.

    Eric Sternberger replied 17 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 20, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    What’s your srouce footage?

    HD or SD?

    https://support.apple.com/kb/TA24757

    Jeremy

  • Steve Cohen

    May 20, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    Right now everything is SD.
    Either Beta SP, D9, or Mini DV.

    Steve Cohen
    Senior Editor
    O2 Media Inc.

  • Steve Cohen

    May 20, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    [Steve Cohen] “Right now everything is SD.
    Either Beta SP, D9, or Mini DV.”

    Forgot to mention we are capturing via a BalckMagic MultiBridge Extreme or Pro.

    Steve Cohen
    Senior Editor
    O2 Media Inc.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 20, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Well, the link specifically says that you can’t capture HD without at least a G5 Quad. SD MIGHT work but your mileage may vary.

    For SD, just go ProRes and not HQ.

    Jeremy

  • Steve Cohen

    May 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm

    Thanks Jeremy;

    We are using a G5 Quad connected to a Fiber San to do our capturing. I think I may test it out and see how things go,

    Steve Cohen
    Senior Editor
    O2 Media Inc.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 20, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Break a leg!

  • Devin Crane

    May 20, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    We have not used Pro Res but have been editing in the IMX 50 codec for the past 4 years and can hardly tell the difference between it and uncompressed. You have to look hard to notice just a little bit more noise compared to Uncompressed 10bit. It’s an HQ Mpeg 2 format which will be easier on your processors than Pro Res which is a variant of H.264. It’s also an I-frame only which means frame to frame no P frames or B frames. Not sure Pro Res is the same, I could be wrong.

  • Steve Cohen

    May 20, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Thanks I’ll capture a clip at a couple of different codecs and then compare them side by side and see.

    Steve Cohen
    Senior Editor
    O2 Media Inc.

  • Gary Adcock

    May 20, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    [Devin Crane] “t’s an HQ Mpeg 2 format which will be easier on your processors than Pro Res which is a variant of H.264. It’s also an I-frame only which means frame to frame no P frames or B frames. Not sure Pro Res is the same, I could be wrong.”

    Devin,

    Apple’s ProRes codec is a 10bit, full raster (ie: full frame geometry) discrete cosine transform (DCT) based compression algorithm. ProRes is an I-Frame codec and was designed specifically to be the highest quality intermediate codec for the post-production workflows that handles the data at the highest 10bit quality.

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  • Devin Crane

    May 21, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Your right, I thought I had read somewhere that it was a variant of H.264, but it’s not.

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