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  • JVC DT-V24L1 in FCP color workflow

    Posted by Michael Shick on April 5, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    I recently got a JVC DT-V24L1 (no SDI) handed down to me at work and I’m trying to figure out the best way to work it into my HVX200-FCP workflow. I’m mostly interested in having a decent place to color correct, something that will hopefully break the chain of frustrating FCP gamma shifts in my finished videos. My work is all smaller and web-only, so no need to go crazy.

    Right now I have the monitor plugged into DVI port 2 on my Mac Pro, and it’s basically being handled like another monitor plugged into the system. This worries me, because I assume Apple/FCP is still going to try to engage in it’s colorsync wizardry. I also notice at the display appears sort of washed out and dull in comparison to my Cinema Display.

    What I’m wondering is, am I going to be no better off with this set up than simply using a good calibrated computer monitor? Is my issue here that I’m getting a RGB color space out of that DVI port, but the monitor would prefer YUV? Do I really need some sort of $2k-$3k capture card, like a Kona, or are there any more budget conscious options, keeping in mind I don’t need any bells & whistles, and am fine without major hardware acceleration (the computer is more than fast enough). How about the Matrox MXO? Are there even less expensive options, maybe just a very simple card that gives a YUV DVI out, and nothing else?

    Thanks for any help.

    -Michael

    Colin Mcquillan replied 17 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    April 5, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    The MXO and Apple Cinema Display (if you have one), or a Dell 2408 will work. The MXO takes YUV out of the DVI port and can turn the display into a broadcast quality monitor.

    https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/matrox-mxo-broadcast-monitoring-on-a-desktop-monitor

    Or if you have a MacPro and HDTV, you can look into the Decklink INtensity Pro. Although I think the MXO and ACD combo is superior, because you can balance the monitor properly to bars.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Michael Shick

    April 5, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Thanks Shane.

    The thing is, I already have a broadcast monitor (the JVC mentioned with DVI-D input), but I don’t think I’m feeding it the right signal to actually get the benefit of it.

    I’ve been investigating more, and the Matrox MXO is really looking like the best solution. I’d be curious if anyone has paired this with a screen like the JVC DT-V24L1. Seems like it would work as well, if not better than the ACD.

    I checked out the Blackmagic line, which seems like a decent option, though I’d be going to an analog component input to the JVC, rather than a digital link.

  • Colin Mcquillan

    April 5, 2009 at 7:16 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Although I think the MXO and ACD combo is superior, because you can balance the monitor properly to bars. “

    Not in this case. The JVC the OP has has full calibration control and blue only. It is IMO superior for monitoring over a MXO/ACD combo.

    I use the JVC DT-V24L1 in my studio hooked up through a Kona LHe and love it. You will definitely need to loose the DVI connection and hook it up via component through a capture card.

    To save $$ the intensity pro card from BMD is a great cost effective way to go.
    https://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver, B.C.

  • Michael Shick

    April 5, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    That’s a great suggestion Colin, thanks.

    Just to clarify, because the JVC already has full control over the image internally, I’m actually better off with a component connection vs. MXO + DVI? Is that because part of the appeal of the MXO is giving calibration control in software for monitors that lack it?

    -m

  • Shane Ross

    April 5, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Ah. For some reason I was thinking that it was another camera you were tossin into the mix.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Shane Ross

    April 6, 2009 at 3:50 am

    Doesn’t that monitor have SDI in? Use that…the MXO has SDI out. And then calibrate the monitor ON the monitor, using it’s controls.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Jason Porthouse

    April 6, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    A capture card will work well with the JVC via Component. It’ll also give you the ability to run 2 computer monitors (bin and timeline) rather than the MXO solution.

    Second the BM range for price/performance, but also check out the MXO2, a very different beast from the MXO.

    Jason

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  • Colin Mcquillan

    April 8, 2009 at 6:50 am

    [Shane Ross] “Doesn’t that monitor have SDI in”

    The JVC DT-V24L1 Michael has doesn’t have SDI. The DT-V24LU has SDI.
    Using the MXO kills a DVI out that could be used for a second computer monitor.

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver, B.C.

  • Colin Mcquillan

    April 8, 2009 at 7:01 am

    [Michael Shick] ” I’m actually better off with a component connection vs. MXO + DVI?”

    In my opinion, yes. You already have a 2K+ display. No need shelling out another K to eat up a display port and give you functionality(calibration) you already have when you could go intensity pro for less than half that and keep your second DVI port free for either a second computer monitor or GPU performance.

    Also adding a card gives you great I/O options on top of monitoring… for less money.
    I would personally stay away from the MXO.

    Colin McQuillan
    Vancouver, B.C.

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