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  • 2quests: warping frame rates and 1080p60

    Posted by Pedro Prates on March 11, 2009 at 10:50 am

    hi! this is my first cc post, i hope i am doing it right. i have two issues i would welcome help with.

    one has to do with 1080p60:
    i have 1080p60 project to work on final cut, and it’s an avchd. i understand i have to convert it, but i am unsure of the best option, and don’t have enough time to experiment at this point, so any feedback is really welcome! ‘read that my choice is between apple’s prores and intermediate codecs, but can’t really tell which and which settings would be better. any suggestions?

    the other has to do with variable frame rates.
    i want to change frame rates of my clips throughout the timeline, sort of like warping sound clips, but don’t know how to do this in final cut. maybe the term for video isn’t warping, so trying to describe what i want to do, it’s something like having a clip run at e.g. 25 fps… than at a certain point in time speed it to e.g. 50, or 100, etc… and than at another point further in time bring it back to 25 fps. this many times throughout the project. is this possible in final cut? can you tell me how?

    all the best, thank you!

    wunjolife.com

    Fredrick Edelkamp replied 17 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Steve Eisen

    March 11, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    In Final Cut, it called time remapping. It can be done in FCP. There are several tutorials that show you how to do this. You change the “speed” of the clip by percentage not frames per second.

    https://www.expertvillage.com/video/15335_final-cut-pro-affecting-video-time-remap.htm

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Pedro Prates

    March 11, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    thx steve! time remapping is exactly what i needed to know.

    re 1080p conversion i have been trying around and it is not really working for me at this point.

    i began by trying the prores, and a 1 min test file originally 180 MB came out weighing 3.2 GB! probably did something less useful with the settings, but not knowing what i decided to try apple’s intermediate codec.

    for the aic i tried to convert the 1080p60 to a 720p60. i need the 60 fps, but don’t need more than 720 at this point. everything is looking great, but the aic720p still came out weighing 540 MB!

    is this normal? is there a better way for me to make my 1080p60 footage a workable 720p60 project?

    cheers!

    wunjolife.com

  • Steve Eisen

    March 11, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Pro Res makes very large files. Compared to 8 bit uncompressed, it is still relatively small. Now you know how compressed the avchd format is.

    Pro Res is the way to go. Hard drives are very inexpensive.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 11, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    As far as I know, there’s no camera on the market that shoots 1080p60 in AVCHD.

    1080psf30 maybe, but not 1080p60.

    Use ProRes.

    Jeremy

  • Pedro Prates

    March 12, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    hey jeremy, thx. thk u both for the prores tip.

    re 1080p60 i think there are some cameras already, but i can confirm that sanyo’s xacti hd2000 does fullhd p60. although it would have been incredibly easier for me if it had the 720p60 setting too… as of now for p60 the option is 1080 with 720 conversion. i have just worked with it once so far, but still at this price point i highly recommend it.

    https://www.productwiki.com/sanyo-xacti-hd2000/

    cheers!

    wunjolife.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 12, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Any chance you can post 2-3 seconds of footage? or shoot 2-3 seconds on a card on post that?

    I am just curious.

    Jeremy

  • Gary Adcock

    March 13, 2009 at 11:38 am

    [peter peters] “i have 1080p60 project to work on final cut, and it’s an avchd. “

    Sorry but NO.

    there are NO AVCHD cameras that can shoot 1080p60-
    this is a DUAL Link format that is only handled in FCP when captured via a Kona 3 card. 1080p60 is currently only available from the Sony f23 + f35, Phantom and sony HDC 1500 /1800 block cameras.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

    Inside look at the IoHD
    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

  • Pedro Prates

    March 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    hi jeremy, no problem. sorry for the delay, it’s been hectic round here.

    here is a sample clip of the xacti hd2000 on the 1080p60 setting, as indicated in the camera.

    i am pretty happy with the camera, it only takes a little getting used to holding to get shaking-free footage.

    https://homepage.mac.com/p.p/xactihd2000.mov

    now please, this is very important: as soon as you see this clip let me know, so i can take it down before my traffic allowance gets maxed.

    cheers

    wunjolife.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 25, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Got it, thanks!

  • Fredrick Edelkamp

    April 19, 2009 at 5:19 am

    [peter peters] “i have 1080p60 project to work on final cut, and it’s an avchd.”

    [gary adcock] “there are NO AVCHD cameras that can shoot 1080p60”

    AVCHD is a format for the recording of high definition video that is compressed in H.264 format and audio is recorded in AC3 (also known as Dolby Digital.) The Sanyo HD2000 shoots in 1080p60 using H.264 at 24Mbps and audio is recorded in 48k 32bit AAC. AAC was developed by the MPEG group, which have also been involved in the development of audio codec’s such as MP3 and AC3. The AAC codec builds upon state-of-the art signal processing technology from Dolby Laboratories and brings true variable bit rate (VBR) audio encoding to QuickTime. Here’s a video shot with the HD2000:

    https://www.vimeo.com/4118667

    If you have a Vimeo account you can download it at 1080p60 48k 32b. The original question remains, the best way to edit it in FCP. I personally convert the footage to HDV 30p, But if you need 1080p60 in fcp the two choices are AIC or ProRes. Unfortunately fcp doesn’t do 32bit audio.

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