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Sony V1U capture issues
Posted by David Roth weiss on October 16, 2008 at 11:34 pmI’ve searched every thread here without a solution.
Brand new client owned Sony V1U is misbehaving with FCP6. FCP is seeing TC breaks that don’t exist.
These are not camera starts and stops.
FCP is creating 4 to 5 separate clips per minute of running time. So, if I shoot a minute of anything, then turn off th camera and digitize that one clip, FCP creates 5 incomplete clips.
This is happening at 1080i and 30p, using HDV 1080i60 Easy Setup, which I know to be the proper Easy Setup.
Any solutions out there?
TIA,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
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Shane Ross
October 16, 2008 at 11:48 pmCapture using a capture card to ProRes…or DVCPRO HD. OR…try the Chris method of capturing HDV as ProRes via firewire…
Shane
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David Roth weiss
October 17, 2008 at 12:18 am[Shane Ross] “Capture using a capture card to ProRes…or DVCPRO HD. OR…try the Chris method of capturing HDV as ProRes via firewire… “
Hi Shane!
I usually work with HDV using the “Poisson method,” and I was gonna try that, but I didn’t really want to do it in this case, as I’m setting up an entirely new multi-cam workflow for this client. But I may have to.
BTW, is your suggestion based upon a known issue with these cameras?
THNX,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Shane Ross
October 17, 2008 at 12:24 am[David Roth Weiss] “BTW, is your suggestion based upon a known issue with these cameras? “
Nope…this is based on not liking the HDV format. I get out of that format as soon as I can. But I have only worked with HDV twice. Thank goodness.
Shane
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Tom Wolsky
October 17, 2008 at 12:33 amWhat’s the whole configuration of your set-up, computer, camera, drives, how are they all connected, how are the drives formatted? It should work. I assume FCP is recognizing the camera and accepting in and out points correctly.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
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David Roth weiss
October 17, 2008 at 12:48 am[Tom Wolsky] “What’s the whole configuration of your set-up, computer, camera, drives, how are they all connected, how are the drives formatted?”
Hi Tom!
G5 – dual 2.3Ghz
5.5Gb RAM
4-bay 2Tb SATA Raid-0 with 225mbps throughput – Mac extended (non-journaled)Camera is recognized via firewire 400 and in/outs are recognized, etc., etc., etc.
BTW, the same config works perfectly with a Z1, it’s these V1Us that are causing me problems.
Very wierd science going on here… Let me know if you have an idea. I’m stumped.
THNX,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Tom Wolsky
October 17, 2008 at 12:56 amDon’t understand it. You are using the rear FireWire port on the G5, aren’t you? That’s the only thing I can think of.
I guess I’d try trashing prefs, repairing permissions and reboot. See if it will capture into a new user.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop” -
David Roth weiss
October 17, 2008 at 1:13 am[Tom Wolsky] “You are using the rear FireWire port on the G5, aren’t you?”
Actually I wasn’t… If that turns out to be the issue I’ll kiss you. Well, how about I let one of my dogs kiss you?
I guess it couldn’t hurt to try all the standard things…
I’ll keep ya posted.
THNX again,
DavidDavid Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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David Roth weiss
October 17, 2008 at 3:14 amSo, after exhaustive testing I’ve discovered that, with the Sony V1U, I can accurately capture HDV to ProRes on the fly via Firewire (using the Poisson method), but I can’t capture HDV native via Firewire without vast numbers of phony tiimecode breaks.
That’s simply bassakwards from the way it should work and did work. It seems to me that Apple has messed-up its firewire protocol somewhere along the line in one of their QT or ProApps updates. Many of those posting similar issues here over the last few months, that appeared to be dropped frames, were apparently related to messy changes to the firewire protocol.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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David Roth weiss
October 17, 2008 at 5:11 amThe latest version of Leopard, but without the latest security update.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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