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  • Premiere Pro gets an update – where’s ours?

    Posted by Steve Connor on September 23, 2008 at 11:59 am

    I note Premiere Pro CS4 has been announced, nice new features, not enough to tempt me away from FCP but at least they are pushing forward with development. It feels like FCP is not going forward at all, no point releases at all just some minor bug fixes.

    Anyone else a bit nervous?

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  • Walter Biscardi

    September 23, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Anyone else a bit nervous? “

    Nope. You know as well as the rest of us, Apple will not announce zip until they are ready. Adobe is a software only company so they have to get the interest out there to sell software.

    Adobe also claims that Encore can seamlessly author BluRay discs. Go read my blog and all my posts in the Encore forum to see how well that’s working out. 12 months of wasted time with that software on our part.

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  • Paul Dickin

    September 23, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Hi
    From the IBC FCPUG Supermeet last week, where Paul Saccone, Director of Technical Marketing in Apple’s Applications Marketing group, will visit us all the way from Cupertino Ca. and provide the latest news on Final Cut Studio.….
    Apparently ‘latest news’ is Red compatibility.

    Apple are probably waiting for climate change to kick in with an ice age to announce Snow FCS 😉

  • Mike Schrengohst

    September 23, 2008 at 2:13 pm

    At least with Encore you can make a basic “Blu-Ray” disc. I have successfully been
    making 1080p HD content that I can burn on a regular DVD-R that will play
    in PS3’s. I wish DVDSP could at least do this.

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 23, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    [Mike Schrengohst] “At least with Encore you can make a basic “Blu-Ray” disc. I have successfully been
    making 1080p HD content that I can burn on a regular DVD-R that will play
    in PS3’s. I wish DVDSP could at least do this.”

    For $1,500 I want to be able to do more than just a “basic” blu-ray disc. If you look at all their marketing, I’m supposed to be able to create fully authored blu-ray titles. Absolutely and utterly false on the Mac. Adobe even stopped contacting us because they have absolutely zero answers and this was working directly with the head of the Encore team, Nathan Gentner who has the quotes on the Encore page praising how easy it is to create an authored BluRay disc.

    For a ‘basic blu-ray’ disc you can get Toast for under $100 and have at it. Our client wants more than basic, hence NetBlender DoStudio.

    I think Apple would not want to release something that is limited to a “Play only” button.

    As for burning on a regular DVD-R, we have tried that using our standard BluRay compression scheme and all we get is stuttering playback. We have to cut the compression back so far that it’s not worth doing that, so we burn directly to BluRay disc to maintain the high quality playback.

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  • Shane Ross

    September 23, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Just curiously, what sector of the media market uses Premiere? All I see in my world (LA, Hollywood…da BIZ) is Avid and FCP. And then higher up ad world stuff ads FLAME and QUANTEL systems. Is this more used by corporate and industrial folks? In the world where Media 100 used to reside (and still does)? Or are there smaller markets using this for broadcast work?

    I know that After Effects is a main app in my world, but curious about Premiere. All this talk about what it can do, yet it isn’t used for what I do. Don’t mean to sound all hoity-toity…just curious.

    Thanks,

    Shane

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  • David Roth weiss

    September 23, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Just curiously, what sector of the media market uses Premiere? All I see in my world (LA, Hollywood…da BIZ) is Avid and FCP.”

    Shane,

    I agree with you, I have never encountered a single person in L.A. using Premiere. However, I can tell you that in the rest of the country, and the rest of world, Premiere has by far the greatest number of users of any NLE, hands down. Adobe products are used in the corporate world in a very big way.

    Oh, and just for the record, later today my first in a series of reviews of Adobe’s Production Premium CS4 comes out on the Cow. I’ll be taking it through it’s paces, operating in a 64-bit environment under Windows Vista 64, on a sizzlingly-fast HPxw8600 workstation. CS4 is does things in that 64-bit environment that are absolutely outrageous, that no one else can touch right now. Follow my series and I think I show you a few things that’ll make your tongue hang out…

    David

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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    I have to agree. I know that a lot of “professionals” don’t use Premiere, but I honestly think it’s due more from perception on the product than its actual merits. Yes, there were some things with the software that maybe held it back from being in a professional environment, but from the previews I’ve seen of CS4 and the changes I’ve read that they made, it looks incredibly kick a**. Virtually every problem I had with CS3 has been resolved.

    We work with Media Composers, Symphony’s, and DS’s here where I work, and it really makes me wish we could work with Premiere.

    And Walter, I don’t work on a Mac so I’ve never come across the problems you did with Encore, but that was their first port back over to the Mac. Even Premiere had a bunch of functionality missing and a few bugs on CS3 for Mac. I’m guessing those types of things got ironed out with this new release…but that’s just a guess.

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 23, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    [David Frisk] “And Walter, I don’t work on a Mac so I’ve never come across the problems you did with Encore, but that was their first port back over to the Mac.”

    You’re creating fully authored Blu-Ray discs?

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  • David Frisk

    September 23, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    I haven’t personally pressed the buttons in the program to create it, but I was there when they were bring created, and they came out fine…again, not on a Mac though.

  • Walter Biscardi

    September 23, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    [David Frisk] “I haven’t personally pressed the buttons in the program to create it, but I was there when they were bring created, and they came out fine…again, not on a Mac though.”

    Main menu? Chapter Menu? All functioned correctly? Or are they just “Play Only” buttons?

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