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  • Shane Ross

    August 2, 2008 at 1:16 am

    WTF?!?! Why are we STANDING for this crap? “It’s for your own safety” is getting VERY old.

    Sorry…but lately this kinda crap is getting worse. And no one in Congress seems to be going “hey, wait a minute…”

    Shane

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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 2, 2008 at 1:20 am

    [Shane Ross] ” And no one in Congress seems to be going “hey, wait a minute…”

    At least one of them still has their own brain:
    “The policies . . . are truly alarming,” said Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.)

    He’s going to introduce legislation where reasonable suspicion would have to be present for a laptop to be seized. Hopefully he’ll succeed.

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  • Shane Ross

    August 2, 2008 at 1:26 am

    I didn’t finish the article when I blew my top. Thank goodness SOMEONE is paying attention.

    Shane

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  • Richard Sanchez

    August 2, 2008 at 1:36 am

    While that legislation would be nice, cops (or border authorities in this case) are renowned for their ability to create probable cause out of anything.

    Richard Sanchez
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  • Colin Mcquillan

    August 2, 2008 at 2:48 am

    For all who like a good conspiracy theory:

    https://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

    Colin McQuillan
    Van. B.C.

  • Dylan Reeve

    August 2, 2008 at 11:01 am

    If/when I travel to USA next I will be removing the hard drive from my laptop and carrying it separately. I presume if the drive isn’t in the machine they wouldn’t be able to compel me to put it back in.

    Seriously, what they hell. These things are clearly not efficient. No ‘terrorist’ is going to have unencrypted plans for attack on their laptop flying into the US. All this will manage to do is catch ordinary people for other unrelated crimes – if it can even be considered legal search and seizure in non-terror crimes.

    I wonder when the rectal probe will become a standard part of travel in and out of the US rather than the special privilege it is currently? For your safety of course.

    I’m certain that every time they enact one of these measures that the ‘evil-doers’ just adopt a new technique. Shoes get checked? No problem we’ll do a liquid bomb. Checking liquids, well, bombs in the bum then. It’s a closing the gate after the horse has bolted, every time.

  • Gary Adcock

    August 2, 2008 at 11:55 am

    [Shane Ross] “WTF?!?! Why are we STANDING for this crap? “It’s for your own safety” is getting VERY old. “

    very true, with no recourse whatsoever for the seized hardware. A Criminal at least can recover their tools after a crime if they are legitimate and useful outside of the criminal world , with this act, after seizure- kiss your gear goodbye, not one of the laptops seized laptops has ever been returned.

    but this is not a new thing guys, the first uses of this rule came after 9/11 but the basis for the very first seizure after 9/11 was on an obscure clause in the Military Secrets and Espionage acts in place since WWI.

    FYI- most secure government contracts include this clause, (mine do), but as a DOD contractor – right of recourse is included.

    Its the poor shulb just crossing the border that gets this”Special Service” when entering the US – along with fingerprints, photographs and a long detention.

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  • Steven Gonzales

    August 2, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    At the risk of turning the forum too political, the American Civil Liberties Union is an organization where those concerned with such actions can find information and unite for a greater voice.

    Also, the Electronic Frontier Foundation has clear information on Travel Screening and other civil liberties transgressions, especially in the area of media access where many of us work.

  • Devin Crane

    August 2, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    They already can do a lot of stuff to commandeer what ever, but unless your name shows up on the terrorist list I highly doubt that’s going to happen. If you pay cash for your ticket and carry lots of cash with you through the airport more than likely you will be taken aside. Why because you are probably a drug dealer.

  • David Roth weiss

    August 2, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    [Dylan Reeve] ” No ‘terrorist’ is going to have unencrypted plans for attack on their laptop flying into the US. All this will manage to do is catch ordinary people for other unrelated crimes – if it can even be considered legal search and seizure in non-terror crimes.”

    Dylan, it’s not about twarting terrorism. That’s just an effective scare tactic.

    “The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Herman Goering

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