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Anything from Apple this Show?
Anything? what about blu-ray in DVDSP???
what about media manager????
What about FCP????
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Apple wasn’t at NAB…at least on the show floor. They and Avid had private meetings next door at the Rennaisance Hotel. And the only NEW thing from them was Final Cut Server…which they announced LAST YEAR, but started shipping a couple weeks ago.
Nothing new for FCP other than the ProApps update to get you to FCP 6.0.3 that fixes the FILE TOO NEW issue and the snapping turned on when OPTION key is held. But that introduced new issues to a handful of people.
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Well, they’re not actually at the show, so just watch the press releases on their web site.
I, too, was expecting some news from Apple this week. Even though they weren’t at the show, it seeemed like a good time to put out some updates with new features.
Nothing yet, though, besides the bug fixes last week.
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Apple pulling out of NAB was a pretty sure sign that they wouldn’t have much to show this year. Point upgrades to add support for other companies’ new products are pretty much all I’ve seen.
I think FCP has been spit ‘n polished up about as much as it can be without getting into rewrite territory. I know nothing about programming, but it sounds like moving past some core weaknesses is going to be a real feat. I’m sure it’ll happen… maybe by next year. I see nothing wrong with every two years for major upgrades to pro apps. Otherwise you barely figure out the quirks before you upgrade again.
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Zak
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>>I know nothing about programming, but it sounds like moving past some core weaknesses is going to be a real feat.
—————Yes, the short version is that Final Cut is going to have to be re-written from scratch before there’s a 64-bit version.
Adobe is in the same boat with Photoshop. They started this re-write project of Photoshop LAST June (2008) and they’ve already said it won’t be ready for CS4. They’ve said it MIGHT be ready for Photoshop CS5.
So you can see the scale involved here. Final Cut will probably be just as much work.
It’s possible they’ve been working on a 32-bit Final Cut 7 for awhile and we’ll get that soon with version 8 being 64 bit a few years after that.
Or maybe version 7 will be the new version, in which case I doubt we’ll get it this year. (The event that forced this re-write occured in June of ’08, so the Final Cut team wouldn’t have been able to start too much earlier than Adobe did.)
Anyway, that’s the ‘short version’ if you can believe it.
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It’s not just a matter of being 64-bit. My (small) understanding of it is that FCP is based on an old programming language called Carbon. While Compressor, Motion, etc. all use the newer one called Cocoa.
Other than “under the hood” changes to make it run faster, I can’t think of a whole lot more they can do with it. Only little things (which can be really important to some) like a ProRes 4:4:4 codec for example. Or a ProRes Extreme which is a true lossless codec. Automatic pulldown detection/removal would be great (seamlessly edit 29.97 film footage on a 23.98 sequence). Apple did file a patent for this kind of technology.
Quicktime needs to be updated so that it can render RGB in 10-bit.
Scaling quality in the Motion tab should be 2nd to none, not 2nd to everything else.
As for FCS as whole, I’m very disappointed in the lack of integration. I find myself avoiding the other apps (Soundtrack, Motion, Color) like the plague. If I can do it in FCP, I will just for the simplicity and non-destructive media managing aspects.
Sean
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It’s not just a matter of being 64-bit. My (small) understanding of it is that FCP is based on an old programming language called Carbon. While Compressor, Motion, etc. all use the newer one called Cocoa.
===========That’s it, but it’s only recently that 64-bit support for Carbon was dropped. That’s why I mentioned it…it was the catalyst for change. Currently Photoshop, Final Cut, Finder, and iTunes all use Carbon. There wasn’t a huge reason for any of these to be re-done in Cocoa. It’s a lot of work and the benefit would be small.
Now that there will be no 64-bit Carbon apps, Adobe’s hand was forced on Photoshop. Though we have no news of it, I suspect the same thing is happening to Final Cut.
So that will be the official “reason” for the re-write. But sure, while they’re at it I’m sure we’ll get other improvements and changes. If you have to start from scratch, might as well make it better than it was before.
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I suspect parallel development of a 64 bit Cocoa version of FCP has been going on for quite awhile….much like the parallel development of OSX for Intel.
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The way that I have heard it (from some Apple developers) is that the Cocoa rewrite began before the gold 64-bit Cocoa API came out (about a few months before Tiger came out in March 05 otherwise-known-as immediately after FCP 5 came out). It might be ready for version 7 which my gut is telling me won’t be out in April 09 because of stupid ongoing ipod/itunes/iphone development. I really see this being more of a Summer 09 (WWDC) or an April 2010 release.
It really shouldn’t take this long cause writing in Xcode is far more efficient that writing for Carbon development which use OS 9 APIs. But Apple’s focus on the consumer stuff is shifting programmers away from the OS development team (reason why Leopard is such a crapshoot) and the Pro Apps development team.
Then again, Apple will probably release the next big cat by then or be on to OS XI which could delay a practical 64 bit release of FCP and save the 64 bit version for FCP 8 with version 7 being a feature update.
Ah, the politics of a consumer based company that also makes kick ass Pro Apps
Michael Bloodgood
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Yeah but…….but what about Blu-Ray? (blubbering incoherently). I need that NOW. I don’t want to resort to Adobe Encore, which means buy the whole CS3 thingy just to burn a BD-R. Sakes.
– Don
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