Anything from Apple this Show?

[Walter Biscardi]

[Don Greening] “I need that NOW. I don’t want to resort to Adobe Encore, which means buy the whole CS3 thingy just to burn a BD-R. Sakes.”

All you need to purchase is Premiere which is bundled with Encore. If you need it NOW, then buy Encore. I NEEDED it in November. I purchased the entire Production Premium CS3 package because that updated my Photoshop and After Effects for a nice upgrade price instead of full price.

We’ve produced 4 or 5 titles so far and starting 5 more titles next week. CS3 was paid for before we burned our first BluRay.

If you NEED it now, then go get it now. DVDSP is not updated and constantly complaining about it here does not help you NOW to create a BluRay.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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[Joe Murray]

The weakness in FCP’s media management, in addition to the problems with speed changes and stills, is that FCP primarily links to media based on filenames rather than reel number and timecode. It will tell you if a clip you’re trying to reconnect is different than it expected, but because the filenames can be very short and simple and are created by the user rather than the software, it’s possible to have a duplicate filename and cause confusion about which clip should be reconnected. If you happen to have two instances of a shot on your drives, with the same filename, FCP is not smart enough to sort out which one goes with your project. Reconnect searches the drives, shows you the first option it finds and doesn’t look any further.

Avid’s underlying database is better. Not sure all the metadata it tracks, but it is a whole lot easier to do an offline/online workflow with Avid. At a very basic level, the filenames are much longer and are created by the software, not the user, which makes it more difficult to screw things up because the software will not create two files of the same name. I’m not as current on Avid as I used to be but this is my understanding of how it works.

Autodesk products have an even better media management/archiving system than Avid…best I’ve ever used, but it comes at a huge premium.

Joe Murray
Edit at Joe’s
Charlotte, NC

[Don Greening]

[walter biscardi] “DVDSP is not updated and constantly complaining about it here does not help you NOW to create a BluRay.”

How does voicing displeasure on the DVDSP_Blu-Ray topic ONCE become construed as constantly complaining about it?

– Don

[Sean Oneil]

Haven’t used an Avid in a while. Does it let you reconnect to files that have different framerates, different reel names, different in and out points, different resolutions, etc.? I’m going to guess it doesn’t (I really don’t know though).

I find that no matter how badly a user mangles his or her media, Final Cut is so powerful in this regard that being able to relink any media to any clip is priceless. It also lets you do unconventional that can save a ton of time and effort. Recently I explained to someone here how instead of converting an EDL from 29.97 to 23.98, in Final Cut you can instead run the media through Cinema Tools, modify the timecode back to 30 NDF format, and reconnect it pretty flawlessly.

I just prefer that Quicktime files are managed through by the user through the OS like regular files are. I don’t want the NLE software taking over in that regard.

Sean

[Walter Biscardi]

[Don Greening] ”
How does voicing displeasure on the DVDSP_Blu-Ray topic ONCE become construed as constantly complaining about it?”

Sorry Don, didn’t mean to single you out. There have been quite a few folks complaining on this and other forums in the lead up to NAB how they need DVDSP to work in BluRay right this second.

Truth of the matter is if you really need it right now for a job, then that first job should more than pay for your Adobe Encore purchase. Our first job paid for Production Premium CS3, the internal BluRay burner, the Panasonic Dual BluRay Duplicator and we still turned a small profit.

We’re already 5 months ahead of where we would be right now had I just decided to not pursue the Adobe option and just sit here waiting for Apple. I would have sent those first titles out to some commercial BluRay production house to create our discs. Now we already have BluRay compression and production pretty much down pat to where it’s more or less like creating a standard DVD now.

So my point is if you need it right now, don’t wait for Apple. Do what you need to do for your business. Will BluRay support come sometime in DVDSP? I don’t see why not. But when it does, we’ll be able to just slide our workflow over to that app, while also having Encore as a second option.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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[Don Greening]

[walter biscardi] “We’re already 5 months ahead of where we would be right now had I just decided to not pursue the Adobe option and just sit here waiting for Apple.”

We probably won’t be needing to author our first Blu-Ray disc until the fall so I’ve been holding off going with the Encore-Toast route in hopes that Apple came out with something in the meantime. The reason I was whining about wishing Apple had something by now was so I could have everything in place for testing and workflow ideas. I’m totally ignorant about the Blu-Ray process and wanted time to learn. Heck, I don’t even know what is needed just to encode a movie for a Blu-Ray destination.

By the time the fall rolls around I hope to be much more fluent in Blu-Ray stuff than I am now.

– Don