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Walter Biscardi
April 18, 2008 at 1:04 am[Jeff Carpenter] “so just watch the press releases on their web site.”
What press releases? Final Cut Server is the only thing I see.
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Walter Biscardi
April 18, 2008 at 1:06 am[Joe Pitts] “Anything?”
Native RED file color grading is coming to Color and AJA will be able to play out native RED files with the Kona boards in May. whoopee.
[Joe Pitts] “what about blu-ray in DVDSP???”
Nope. Go get yourself Encore.
[Joe Pitts] “what about media manager????”
Zip.
[Joe Pitts] “What about FCP????”
Nada.
Makes me glad I made the last minute decision to work with a client than attend the show. Lots of press releases from the broadcast side of things, but not much for post.
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Sean Oneil
April 18, 2008 at 3:32 am[Joe Pitts] “what about media manager”
May I ask, what about it?
“Media Manager sucks” gets mentioned a lot around here like it’s some kind of political talking point. Your’s is the first time I’ve heard it in a while. I still don’t understand what’s supposedly wrong with it.
Sean
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Dan Riley
April 18, 2008 at 4:43 amIf you don’t do uprez as a part of your workflow, then MM is not a problem,
at least that’s my perspective. You have to give it to AVID on this point.
They do a great job of conforming a DV show to an uncompressed show
for instance, with effects, transitions, titles, etc. FCP does a lousy job of this,
again, in my experience. It’s so bad that I’ve given up doing um. Instead of
the two hours it take our AVID editor to go from a 10 to 1 show, to an
uncompressed show, it takes me that long to do the recaptures, but then
another 6 hours or more to get all the still frames, titles, speed changes,
etc., to match back. Again, if you have a very simple cuts only show
and a very early roughcut, I suppose MM is fine. But if you are going to
uprez at the early stage, what’s the point of doing it? You will now have to
load in a bunch of new tapes as you continue to refine the show.Now that we have an 8TB RAID on our FCP suite, I just load stuff in at full rez
to start with. But this is not a good strategy if you have 50 reels and are doing a
large docu or multicam show with 5 or more cameras.Dan
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Walter Biscardi
April 18, 2008 at 10:04 am[Dan Riley] “Now that we have an 8TB RAID on our FCP suite, I just load stuff in at full rez
to start with. But this is not a good strategy if you have 50 reels and are doing a
large docu or multicam show with 5 or more cameras.”No issues here with this strategy. We load multiple episodes of a documentary series we’re working on right now, each with over 30 tapes, on to our 8TB Arrays. That’s part of the reason for purchasing such large hard drive units. They give you the flexibility to manage large projects in full HD resolution.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Walter Biscardi
April 18, 2008 at 10:07 am[Sean ONeil] “”Media Manager sucks” gets mentioned a lot around here like it’s some kind of political talking point. Your’s is the first time I’ve heard it in a while. I still don’t understand what’s supposedly wrong with it.”
For simply moving a final timeline and all media from one workstation to another, it’s fine.
If you want to work in an offline mode, then turn around the re-capture the final timeline in full on-line mode, it still sucks. Too much wasted time capturing material you don’t need, improper captures, material missing, etc…. Not sure why this is so difficult since it was so easy in Media 100 back in 1995 when I was using that application, but it still is too convoluted.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Jeff Carpenter
April 18, 2008 at 3:54 pm>>What press releases?
—-I meant, watch the press releases to see if anything new comes up. I was telling him that it was the best way to keep on top of any Apple announcements without having to ask other people.
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Sean Oneil
April 18, 2008 at 5:37 pm[walter biscardi] “Too much wasted time capturing material you don’t need, improper captures, material missing, etc…. Not sure why this is so difficult since it was so easy in Media 100 back in 1995 when I was using that application, but it still is too convoluted.”
I’ve never had any of any of those problems unless reel names weren’t properly given.
I’m also a Media 100 alumni. Back than at least (version 8 was my last) Media 100 only worked with one codec, one frame rate, one resolution, etc. You couldn’t manually change timecode numbers or reconnect media. So I think it’s a bit of an “apples vs. oranges” to compare it with FCP, which is ridiculously more powerful and can work with anything Quicktime can understand. With great power comes great responsibility. Media Manager’s complexity is required for smoothly dealing with all the format possibilities.
One thing I agree with the other comments though is that there should be an option to proportionately change the motion settings automatically for stills and such when going from SD to HD, like how Avid does it.
Sean
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Sean Oneil
April 18, 2008 at 5:47 pm[Don Greening] “Yeah but…….but what about Blu-Ray? (blubbering incoherently). I need that NOW. I don’t want to resort to Adobe Encore, which means buy the whole CS3 thingy just to burn a BD-R. Sakes”
Toast 9 should be out soon. It allows Blu-ray video disc creation. I don’t know if you can do complex menus or other features, but for client discs I’m sure it’ll do the job.
Sean
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Walter Biscardi
April 18, 2008 at 6:54 pm[Sean ONeil] “don’t know if you can do complex menus or other features, but for client discs I’m sure it’ll do the job.”
Very basic and we’re not doing client discs, we’re doing fully authored discs just like we would do in DVDSP. Very disappointing that DVDSP did not get an update to allow BluRay authoring.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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