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  • 8 bit uncompressed looks soft on Direct TV

    Posted by Delano Bryant on January 26, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Does anyone know why 8 Bit should look soft on a direct TV signal? We are outputting 10bit now but there was an Epi that went out 8 bit. Why should 8 look so bad? Also, The channel we are broadcasting on isn’t very rich in color. I’m affaird to boast my SAT or contrast. Thoughts? ANyone????

    Walter Biscardi replied 18 years, 3 months ago 13 Members · 27 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    What did you deliver on and it’s a shame what broadcast encoding can do to a nice image.

  • Delano Bryant

    January 26, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    I outputted directly to Beta SP. They ingest the BETA into their server and its broadcasted. The interesting thing is their commercials look allot better in the program then our show. I am shooting on HD online HD the output to 10bit for the SD signal they want.

    Is that the color red you want to use?
    Producer for HIGHER GROUND OUTDOORS.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Well, you can certainly deliver a higher quality master than BetaSP. Digibeta will be a lot cleaner and will retain your 10bit depth. When mastering to BetaSP you are going to analog and all of it’s quirks. 8 bit uncompressed is no longer 8 bit uncompressed. What BetaSP deck do you have?

    Jeremy

  • Arc Nevada

    January 26, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Beta should look fine. You can hook any Beta deck up the trasmitter and get a good clean image (not a good as Digital though). My guess is that the stations system has compressed the image into MPEG so it will not take up much space on the server. I imagine some of the other footage may look better than yours because it was delivier in a medium (digtal) that was close to the MPEG 2 format. This is just a guess. You could aks what video codec is being used at the station when the Beta tapes are digitized. I doubt they use uncompressed on a server.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    [arc nevada] ” I doubt they use uncompressed on a server. “

    Most definitely not.

  • Delano Bryant

    January 26, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    I have a beta 1400. The Network we are on doesn’t take Digibeta. They would take DVCAM but thats smaller file size the Beta.

    Is that the color red you want to use?
    Producer for HIGHER GROUND OUTDOORS.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Then it appears that’s the best it’s going to get. Will they take a digital file?

  • David Roth weiss

    January 26, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    [arc nevada] “My guess is that the stations system has compressed the image into MPEG so it will not take up much space on the server. I imagine some of the other footage may look better than yours because it was delivier in a medium (digtal) that was close to the MPEG 2 format. This is just a guess.”

    No guess involved… Before video is sent to a satellite it is highly compressed, and analog video suffers much more than the digital formats. DigiBeta looks many times better after satellite transmission.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Delano Bryant

    January 26, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    THe other issue is…. THat some of the other shows on this same network. Have a little sharper or deeper color look then we do. Our Show goes through a color corrector and should have a deeper saturated look.

    Is that the color red you want to use?
    Producer for HIGHER GROUND OUTDOORS.

  • Delano Bryant

    January 26, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    DVCAM. but thats not better then BETA.

    Is that the color red you want to use?
    Producer for HIGHER GROUND OUTDOORS.

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