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  • Media Manager taking sooooooo long

    Posted by Al Sinclair on March 20, 2007 at 9:11 pm

    Hi,

    I’ve just finished a 4min music video, and am trying to Media Manage the project for recapture at online res.

    I’ve never had a problem with MM before – the only difference with this project is that I used Multiclips. I’ve collapsed them though – that should make them OK, yes? Being a promo, there’s a hell of a lot of cuts… maybe that’s what’s eating up time?

    Whenever I select to Media Manage the sequence, I get the “Building List Of Used Media” box come up, and this is where it takes a long long time. After 15 mins it’s crept up to 4%.

    I’ve cancelled a number of times while trying to think of another way to get this to online, but have had to resume as I can’t think of a workaround.

    Any ideas???

    It’s getting late.

    Thanks in advance

    Al

    PowerMac G5
    6GB RAM
    FCP 5.1.4
    Kona 2
    EonStor RAID

    Jeremy Garchow replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    March 20, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    I am using 5.1.4 and often make online HD versions from DV offline project files. I recapture the media as uncompressed 10bit 4.2.2 HD. The Media Manager takes about 10- 15 minutes to make an offline project file of a 52 minute doco. If your 4 minute version is taking longer than this then I am wondering what settings you are using. It would also help to know the version you are on.

    I suspect you are using media manager to recompress the media. This takes much longer than recapture but again, some detail of your workflow will help.

  • Al Sinclair

    March 20, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    Hi,

    I don’t even get as far as the Media Manager settings window – it’s taking all this time to build the list of used media…

    I offlined at DV PAL, and am hoping to online at Uncompressed 10bit through my Kona 2. I don’t even get as far as selecting that, though.

    FCP is version 5.1.4.

  • Michael Gissing

    March 20, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    I see. I start with just a project file (usually emailed) with no media.

    I wonder if you tried this it might help. Make a “save as” copy of the project file (rename it Online) and save to your local drive. Shutdown and disconnect all media drives. Reboot and open the Online project. All media will be offline so click continue.

    Then launch Media Manager and see if it quickly gets to the main page as the media will all be offline. Of course, when you are done and reboot with all drives back on, the original project will not be affected. The only copy, saved with the media offline is the new one.

  • Oliver Peters

    March 20, 2007 at 10:13 pm

    Al,

    This is a known problem with Multiclip sequences. Collapse your multiclips and then copy & paste your sequence to a new one and this should fix things.

    Sincerely,
    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Al Sinclair

    March 20, 2007 at 10:26 pm

    Hi Oliver (and Michael)

    In the end I took a different route… I match framed each clip and pasted them onto a higher layer, then deleted the lower layer with the collapsed multiclips on. Seems to have got Media Manager chugging along OK now.

    Keyboard shortcuts (x, f, F10) meant it wasn’t too arduous.

    Next problem though: It was a greenscreen shoot, and I’ve got two passes of the same footage – one with a final grade, and one with a grade to bring out the greens. The Green pass is offset by one hour. Do I have to manually alter the TC for each clip, or is there some way of capturing with an offset?!?

    Last time I did this from Avid to FCP and did a Find/Replace on the EDL in TextEdit! Maybe I should do the same???

    Thanks again,

    Al

  • Michael Gissing

    March 20, 2007 at 10:37 pm

    I don’t think FCP can capture with an offset of 1hr. I take it that you have the two versions on tape. If so why the need to offset? Surely it will capture both layers correctly.

    Otherwise how did you end up with the offset?

  • Al Sinclair

    March 20, 2007 at 10:44 pm

    The rushes were TK to two sets of tapes…

    Final Grade to two Digis with TCs starting at 01:00:00:00 and 02:00:00:00, and matching Greenscreen pass starting at 11:00:00:00 and 12:00:00:00

    So actually it’s a 10 hour offset. Ooops. Same principle, though.

    I used the Nicely graded rushes for the offline, but need to do two onlines for each pass so the animator can get a key off the greenscreen pass and apply it to the nicely graded version.

    Phew.

  • Michael Gissing

    March 20, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Sounds like an EDL and find/ replace in a word processor then. Tedious but lucky it is only 4 minutes.

  • Al Sinclair

    March 20, 2007 at 11:29 pm

    How thoroughly modern. Hoped there’s be an FCP-native way of doing this… Feature request? – or does nobody else ever have to do daft stuff like this?

    Thanks for confirming my suspicions though!

    Cheers,

    Al

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 21, 2007 at 3:20 am

    Yes, once you get your final sequence media managed, you should be left over with a bin that has all the master clips for your online timeline. Export a batch list from that bin and open that in excel and save as an excel workbook (it opens it as a tab delimited text file). Select the entire media start column and do a find of ’01:’ and replace with ’11:’ you will have to be careful in the replace feature, but you should be able to eyeball it pretty well. Do the same for the media end column and for the 02: and 22: tcs. Save this new workbook out as a tab delimited text file. Then open your online project and create a new bin. Double click that bin and option click in the open space and choose import > batch list. All of your new clips will come in and then you should start capturing. It sounds like a lot of steps and complicated, but it’s actually really easy. Next time you do this, have the Green screen and final grade tapes have the same tc, and then all you have to do is find and replace the reel number. Much much easier.

    Good luck to you.

    Jeremy

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