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Client requires ProRes, and I’m on Windows
I’m working on a project in which the client requires the final asset to be in ProRes 422 — I guess it’s the only codec an AJA Ki Pro will play — but I’ve made the switch to Premiere on Windows.
I know there’s no way to export directly to ProRes from Premiere on Windows (yet… I know there’s just been a plugin announced that’s coming soon?)
I’m guessing my only option is to just export to something like DNxHD, then bring the files to my old Mac to convert to ProRes in something like mpeg Streamclip, or Media Encoder or the like.
Any thoughts? Am I missing some essential workflow issue here? Thanks in advance!
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An option for ProRes encoding on Windows…available now, and costs 50.00 USD…
https://www.miraizon.com/products/codecsoverview.html
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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You can also encode Prores files for free with FFMpeg. Note that these options aren’t “proper” Prores so FCP or similar might say it’s not optimized.
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[Tero Ahlfors] “Note that these options aren’t “proper” Prores so FCP or similar might say it’s not optimized.”
The Miraizon owner told me that the ProRes files they encode will default to the standard QT ProRes decoder if it’s installed.
I haven’t had time to start testing it, but the guy was introduced to me by a long time Adobe staff member…so for 50 bucks, it’s not a huge risk…
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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[Tim Kolb] “The Miraizon owner told me that the ProRes files they encode will default to the standard QT ProRes decoder if it’s installed.”
I googled around and people say that the Miraizon Prores does not work in Resolve at all.
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[Tero Ahlfors] “I googled around and people say that the Miraizon Prores does not work in Resolve at all.”
I’m not a Resolve user, but I did see the post elsewhere that resolve doesn’t “see” the codec at all… BlackMagic has mentioned its license relationship with Apple in the past when it comes to answer questions about why one item is supported and another not supported…
The Miraizon codec is based on a clean up of the FFMPEG implementation (per the company guy I spoke with), so I assume anything working with that doesn’t work either?
Does the Cinemartin version load in Resolve? Does anybody have experience with that workflow?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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[Tero Ahlfors] “You can also encode Prores files for free with FFMpeg. Note that these options aren’t “proper” Prores so FCP or similar might say it’s not optimized.”
But fellow COW Frank Gothmann indicates that they do play on Ki Pro:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/66784#66806
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Walter Soyka] “But fellow COW Frank Gothmann indicates that they do play on Ki Pro”
I’ve gotten a bunch of prores files out of a Baselight 2 which is a hardcore grading system that uses the FFMPEG approach. The file info says that it’s not optimized and FCP warns about it not being optimized. Also these files do not work in Cinema Tools because it’s not truly Apple prores. The files do work though, but I’ve had clients have a panic attack when FCP puts up the prompt.
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I’d also like to know if the Cinemartin version is recognized by more Mac-based workflows as opposed to the Miraizon.
The Cinemartin solution IS considerably more expensive, but might be worth it if it works for more workflow scenarios.
Any further enlightenment would be appreciated. Thanks. -
Hello Ryan Simmons,
I have tried out Cinemartin Cinec Plin (https://www.cinemartin.com/cinec/plin/) on my Windows 8.1 computer, a brand new plugin for Premiere Pro, and I have to say, it works like a treat for encoding to any broadcast quality format, among which all ‘flavours’ of ProRes 422. With the plugin installed (just read through the short manual on how to do that), from within Premiere Pro you can just select the timeline, goto File –> Export, and select the Cinemartin Cinec Plin. You then get to see the plugin in which you can set the ProRes 422 settings, the frame rate, and the aspect ratio. Once you’ve done that, you click Encode and the encoding begins. That’s all there is to it 🙂
All the best,
Victor van Dijk
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