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Breakout to Mono Clips goes horribly wrong in PP2
Hi,
I have a VERY frustrating problem –
Scenario:
I have footage shot with one guest on each stereo channel. I have to edit each guest’s audio, and so I breakout to mono clips, but centre them so it is suitable for mono TVs etc.Problem:
When I copy the whole project folder to a network drive for use on another machine, and open it, both the audio channels are the same side ie both left or both right. I cannot find any way to change this, and I have to hear both the guests, so the only solution I can see at the moment is to re-edit, which of course is absurd.Question:
Does anyone know a solution to this problem, or a workaround? Has anyone else had this problem, or is it just me?!Computer info:
Alienware X2
WinXP Pro SP2
Intel P4 3.2GHz dual
nVidia Quatro FX 1300
4GB RAM
800MHz clock
1 x 75GB HD
2 x 250GB HDThanks in advance for any help.
Victoria Ellis
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9 Replies
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presuming people are not talking over one another, I usually razor the track between speakers, and then use Fill Left or Fill Right to make the audio full track, and that works pretty well.
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Yes, that would be what I should do in future. But any ideas about how to fix the current problem?
I know that there’s now a function called Source Channel Mapping with lets you map the stereo channels to two monos, so you can edit each of them individually that way, but I can’t now do that with the broken out tracks.
I reckon that this is one of those really irritating bugs which only pops up when there are tight deadlines involved…
Just had a thought…any chance of this problem being caused by deleting the created folders (Conformed Audio, Encoded Files etc) so that the project isn’t so large to put on the network?
Victoria
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Hi Victoria.
So you’ve broken out the audio and I assume you’ve edited these to MONO trax on the timeline (you wouldn’t have much choice).
You now have a mono file of each participant.
When you load the broken out sources into the Source monitor are they ok?
But they are not OK on the timeline?
Is the timeline Stereo? Do you see Pan nobs in the Mixer?
lemme know…
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Hi Alex,
[Alex Udell] “When you load the broken out sources into the Source monitor are they ok?” Yes, whilst editing it initially, but not once the project is opened again after having been ‘cleaned up’ and put on the network.
[Alex Udell] “But they are not OK on the timeline?” No. They are fine on the timeline, whilst editing, but not subsequently (as above).
[Alex Udell] “Is the timeline Stereo?” Yes. Two mono tracks are created as well when I drag the broken out clips down.
[Alex Udell] “Do you see Pan nobs in the Mixer?” Yes.
Does that help with a diagnosis?!
Look forward to hearing from you,
Victoria -
Hi V,
How did you centere them originally?
Alex
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[Alex Udell] “How did you centere them originally?”Fill Left and Fill Right on both the tracks
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Hello Again,
“[Alex Udell] “How did you centere them originally?”Fill Left and Fill Right on both the tracks”
OK, here’s where I’m getting lost….
If I take a clip and break out the tracks to Mono.
Then I take the Mono Clips and edit them to a Mono trackon the timeline…
Premiere will literally not let me add the Fill Left/Fill Right effects to a mono clip. This is a Stereo effect.
When you edited the video clips to the timeline did your audio come along with it? If so, even though you broke the mono audio out, you still edited with the original stereo source to a stereo destination track.
Do you see two audio waveforms on your destination audio track on the timeline?
this would indicate thatyou editied with the stereo audio source, not the broken out mono.NOW…
Having used the fill Left and fill right Audio FX to isolate your speakers in the stereo source….
Check the clips on the timeline to make sure that the filter is still there…
and check to make sure bypass is not checked….
Are you saying that the clips are iloated propoerly, but panned wrong?
Or that they are not isolated properly?
Thx…
Alex
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I’ve had that same problem, Victoria.
I couldn’t work it out either. Sometimes it happens after copyint the project folder and other times it works just fine…
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Hi Alex,
Sorry for having not replied for a while. I’ve had another look at the project, and they haven’t had ‘Fill Left’ and ‘Fill Right’ put on to centre them. I think that in this project, they were just broken out to mono clips, and put on the same timeline. This seems to have panned the audio to the centre, rather than hard left and right.
I’m still in the dark about what causes this, as we have tried deleting the Conformed Audio folders etc with other projects, but the problem did not replicate.
Never mind. In future, we will remap the source channels, so that we an edit each one seperately, without having to breakout to mono clips.
Thanks for all your help though!
Victoria
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