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  • DVCPRO 25

    Posted by Mike Cohen on December 15, 2005 at 9:15 pm

    Multi-question post:

    Having flip-flopped between Media 100 and PPro the past year, I have grown quite attached to Premiere Pro over the past few projects. Which brings me to the possibility to using the Media 100 a lot less frequently.

    Short of dubbing my DVCPRO source tapes to mini-DV…Can I hook up the DVCPRO to a analog to DV box (ADVC-100) and use some sort of USB to RS-422 device for machine control? Would that work, and allow me to batch log and capture with PPro?

    Aside from the Matrox Axio or RTX, is there anything that can let me use an external video monitor for real time PPro playback/editing (assuming cuts only or rendered effects)?

    Is this a Decklink solution?

    If I got a firewire card for my DVCPRO deck (it’s the 250 which does not come with one) is there a DVCPRO25 codec for PPro?

    Thanks to all.

    Mike Cohen

    Dan L. replied 19 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Marc Bauwens

    December 15, 2005 at 10:16 pm

    Aside from the Matrox Axio or RTX, is there anything that can let me use an external video monitor for real time PPro playback/editing (assuming cuts only or rendered effects)?

    Yes, a Decklink card for example will allow that.

    If I got a firewire card for my DVCPRO deck (it’s the 250 which does not come with one) is there a DVCPRO25 codec for PPro?

    Mainconcept makes a DVCPRO codec. For more info go and have a look here:
    https://www.mainconcept.com/codecs.shtml#dvcpro

    For machine control I can’t help, since I never worked with DVCPRO equipment up till now, but from what I read on the Blackmagic side, the Decklink card can cotrol decks thru RS-422.

  • Mike Cohen

    December 15, 2005 at 10:35 pm

    Thanks for the info. Looking at the blackmagic site that looks like a good solution.
    Anything that will convert S-Video to YUV?

    Mike

  • Shane Chadder

    December 15, 2005 at 10:50 pm

    Mike

    We use DVCPro25 into premiere via firewire. You don’t need another codec for Premiere, the built in DV codec will work fine. If you are using an “s” output you are degrading your signal while firewire makes a perfect copy.

    Shane

  • Mike Cohen

    December 16, 2005 at 3:10 pm

    It was my understanding that the signal which comes out of the DVCPRO machines’ via firewire is DVCPRO, not DV…thanks.

  • Dave Friend

    December 16, 2005 at 4:19 pm

    I think that the DVCPRO25, DVCam and DV all us the same video encoding algorithm. IOW, they are the same format. It’s the tape recording specs (speed, track pitch and others) that differ between these various flavors of DV tape.

    Dave

  • Dave Friend

    December 16, 2005 at 4:47 pm

    [Mike Cohen] “is there anything that can let me use an external video monitor”

    Mike,

    Set PPro to output the desktop to the 1394 (firewire) interface. Use the DVCPro deck as your “digital to analog” converter and monitor the analog out of the deck. I’m not familiar with your deck and perhaps not all decks are able to EE monitor from the firewire input. Won’t cost you anything to try except the time.

    Dave

  • Mike Cohen

    December 16, 2005 at 6:01 pm

    That’s a good idea. However we have a roving DVCPRO deck. If I capture via firewire with DVCPRO, and also have a decklink card for monitoring and input/output with other sources, it should still work ok, no?

    Thanks for the suggestions.

    PS – The DVCPRO desktop recorders (AJ-D230 and D250) came with RS-232 for some strange reason. We replaced those cards with RS-422 which we use with the Media 100 systems (no DV on the Media 100 systems) with S-Video (looks great actually). A couple of years ago I had a technician at Panasonic tell me that the firewire add-on card for these desktop recorders outputs DVCPRO, or could be reprogrammed to fudge a DV signal.

    Perusing the Panasonic website reveals:

    The newer desktop decks and studio decks now have ieee-1394 i/o which can not only switch between DV and DVCPRO , but also take DVCPRO input and record it in DV to DV tape, and vice versa.
    Might be time for a new deck (which will happen soon enough since we use these decks constantly)

  • Mark Smithhisler

    December 16, 2005 at 6:26 pm

    Mike,

    I’m pretty much in the same boat as you having transitioned from Media 100 to PPro recently. I’m using an AJ-D455 deck via the optional firewire card and it’s no problem capturing video whether it’s DV or DVCPRO. Machine control works fine through the firewire port as well. My understanding has always been that DVCPRO is electronically the same format as DV – the differences between DV, DVCAM & DVCPRO are mechanical in nature, track pitch, tape speed, etc. Monitoring through the tape deck also works pretty well.

  • Mike Cohen

    December 16, 2005 at 7:06 pm

    cool…nice to hear from other Media 100 users.

  • Shane Chadder

    December 16, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    Mike

    We use the 250 (among others) with the firewire card and Adobe Premiere. The signal out is fine. The only problem we’ve encountered is recapturing as the deck cues so fast it overshoots the in/out points. DV takes so little space I tend to capture entire tapes so it hasn’t been an issue.

    Shane

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