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Multiformats a la Cinewave?
Hey.
I’m about to jump ship and go Kona LH from Cinewave.
We’re used to having elements in DV that could mixed in the FCP timeline.
Even if they have to be rendered, is this possible in FCP with Kona LH?Thanks
Dave
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Nope…one of the sacrifices, unfortunately.
I went from Cinewave to KonaLH. Besides the few missing features (on-board RT, multiformat TL, and ALL formats BOB) the jump to Kona is worth it.
I had to change my workflow slightly to accomodate the missing features…but all is well. Peace of mind is worth the price to convert.
Ron
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really one of my biggest want for FCP is multiformat in the same timeline….
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[Dave Snowdy] “Even if they have to be rendered, is this possible in FCP with Kona LH?”
With rendering, you can do mixing and matching of codecs with any product. CineWave was the only product that allowed real-time mixing of formats and from what I gather, it’s not going to be coming any time soon to any FCP product.
So, yes, you can mix and match codecs using Kona product, you’ll just have to render every codec / format that doesn’t match your timeline.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[walter biscardi] “and from what I gather”
Where’ve you been hunting?
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HI,
Walter is right. You can place DV in an uncompressed timeline but it will need rendering. you will have to deal with the scaling issue if you are going from a 720X480 DV source to a 720×486 SD601 timeline like 8 or 10 bit uncompressed.
One way to solve this is to use compressor to batch convert the material to another codec. You could also use media manager to do this. Open all of the clips in a project and media manage (recompress) the clips to a new project. FCP will handle the scaling for you.
The downside, DV 3.8mb/sec 10bit UC 27mb/sec, So six times more storage to store that DV footage.
The really nice alternative is to use the DVCpro50 codec for projects with DV. It takes dv up to 7.8 MB sec and now you are in the 4:2:2 color space. THis codec is the codec used by camera’s like the SDX 900 which is speced at Digibeta quality. I do alot of finished work in this codec because of it’s efficiency and it’s good performance with rendering. Totally acceptable broadcast format at 1/4 the size of 10 bit UC.
DV, being 8 bit DVwill still have banding issues in 10 bit so DVCPRO50 is a nice alternative.
Lots of real time withthis codec as well.
David
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True indeed!!!
The show I cut is shot on DVCPRO50 using the SDX900. Beautiful stuff!
Match the 900 with a 100 and a great DP, and you really get some of the best stuff on air.Ron
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All good news.
Thanks!Dave
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[David Battistella] “You can place DV in an uncompressed timeline but it will need rendering. you will have to deal with the scaling issue if you are going from a 720X480 DV source to a 720×486 SD601 timeline like 8 or 10 bit uncompressed.”
Actually there’s no scaling issue at all. Simply move your DV footage down one scan line and the DV will look perfect. This is how CineWave did it in realtime. It never scaled up the DV footage, it simply moved it down one scan line so you end up with a few black scan lines above and below the DV footage, way off into Overscan area.
Your Center setting in the Motion tab should be 0,1 for all DV clips in an uncompressed timeline. If you leave it at 0,0 or try to up-rez the clip to 720×486 you’ll get some nasty rasterizing.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Walter is right. I wasn’t as articulate has he was in his post, but you do have to realize that the DV needs to be moved down the one scan line. On a projected output you might notice the six line difference, but it is out of safe area for broadcast.
David
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