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  • The FCPX Personality Types

    Posted by Matthew Glasser on July 16, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    As the vitriolic attacks continue regarding FCPX, I would offer this suggestion for improving our rhetorical workflow. To keep from having to rehash our FCPX positions over and over again from thread to thread, let’s just identify ourselves with the follow code:

    FCPX Type A — I love FCPX including the UI and can use it for the work I do.

    FCPX Type B — I like the FCPX UI but can’t use it due to missing features I need for the work I do.

    FCPX Type C — I hate FCPX and will never use it. I am making a switch to something else.

    Now, instead of having to type paragraph after paragraph about your FCPX feelings, you can use say “I am a FCPX Type C” and move on to something fresh and original.

    Walter Soyka replied 14 years, 9 months ago 22 Members · 57 Replies
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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 16, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    FCPX type D: I object to the vocal debate and spend my time passively aggressively telling other people to shut up or move on.

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    July 16, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I can’t understand why anyone who fits Type C keeps posting.
    Constructive criticism is one thing but otherwise it’s just dragging down the usefulness of the COW (at least those who actually want to discuss FCPX) to a level equal to the worst of YouTube comments.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 16, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I object to the vocal debate”

    Actually what’s happening is not “debate.” There are a group of people who are spending their time denigrating others who are trying to understand the philosophy behind the program because it requires learning new techniques (another forum) but a new way of looking at things.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 16, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Well, that’s what you say Craig. You’re a strong vigorous proponent of the software and have been daily for weeks now. I’ve been frothing for weeks. Why would anyone trust either of our determinations as to who is denigrating or indeed, just arguing over the other? You are no neutral observer. And as a general rule, couching strident positions in reasonable language is not an invisibility shield.

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Marvin Holdman

    July 16, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Craig, there are still some of us real diehards who are hanging out to see what happens. I really, really, really, really want this piece of crap software to work. Foolish, perhaps, but I think it still has a little hope. In the meantime, I know you didn’t put the screws to a great many professionals on the 21st, but understand that bitterness is not going away. This whole “Ya’ll don’t like our new toy, you can just leave” is not going to happen. Apple drove a wedge between users. I appreciate your input when it’s related to technical facts regarding the release, but tell me you don’t see how your comment can be construed as dismissive?

    Besides…. I’ve grown quite fond of Aindreas post. Frankly, it will always be a part of this NEW culture that FCPX has decided to unleash. Deal with it.

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    July 16, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    No more grandiose calls for those you disagree with, or are tired of reading to stop posting, you may wonder why they post, but they have the exact same right to post as you have. You are not the one to determine the usefulness of a given set of discussions on this forum, and categorizing those you disagree with as YouTube ranters is ad hominem passive aggressive clap trap. You should know better. You know well the positions of most people, if you dont want to read them Craig, don’t read them.

    You never know – people may be bored of you. I know some people are bored of me. their boredom isn’t a gag.

    http://www.ogallchoir.net
    promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Marvin Holdman

    July 16, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    I will add one aspect of the “complaining” that is useful….

    Someone, like the fellow from a government facility that I talked too the other day, who happens upon this forum and doesn’t know the shortcomings of this program, and the ramifications of trying to install it in a shared, multi-user environment, incorporate it into external data systems and deal with their old projects NEEDS to hear someone say… “it sucks for that”.

    Apple sure hasn’t done very much at all to explain this “new” paradigm, or how to integrate it. Wonder if we’ll EVER see a white paper on that? There needs to be more than just cheerleaders on this forum for folks that honestly need to know such things. Besides…. I DON”T post to the “techniques” forum. Read it, just don’t post this sort of message their. Where would you propose someone post how this dung heap works in an existing professional environment?

    Marvin Holdman
    Production Manager
    Tourist Network
    8317 Front Beach Rd, Suite 23
    Panama City Beach, Fl
    phone 850-234-2773 ext. 128
    cell 850-585-9667
    skype username – vidmarv

  • Chris Harlan

    July 16, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    I have to say that Craig has posted some well-ballanced comments, not just evangelizing, but also pointing out downsides. We’ve all gotten a little blow-hardy, though I must say, Aindreas, that the operatic heights that you’ve striven to maintain are magnificent. I’m still laughing over “story holes.” I’m with Marvin, that I would like to see something more come out of this program. The only way I know how to even try to make that happen is to shout ‘The emperor has no clothes!” I’m completely with Aindreas about that. Craig, I do appreciate some of the things you are doing, but do you really think that slim little list of promises from Apple would have materialized at all if it weren’t for the noise?

  • Craig Seeman

    July 16, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “You’re a strong vigorous proponent of the software “

    I’m not a “proponent.” I would not recommend anyone use it if it can’t do the work you need to get done.
    I am working at understanding the design philosophy.

    There are people who are repeating that they don’t like it ad nauseum. I am not saying “i like” I am trying to understand and I do like what I understand.

    Complaints server no purpose other than to antagonize people. That’s far different then attempting to do something and then pointing out a NEWLY discovered issue. . . in which someone else might point out that one must take a different approach to solve a problem.

    It’s like complaining over a compositing app that’s node rather than exclusively track based. If you don’t like nodal based compositing than use another app. Complaining is POINTLESS.

    Some people might try to understand why the teacher is using Esperanto. Others just complain about it. If the teacher has decided on Esperanto complaining that it should be French server no purpose for those trying to understand WHY the teacher has chosen Esperanto.

  • Craig Seeman

    July 16, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    [Marvin Holdman] “Craig, there are still some of us real diehards who are hanging out to see what happens. I really, really, really, really want this piece of crap software to work.”

    Discovering NEW problems that need to be surmounted can be of some value. Repeating over and over and over again about how one despises the “trackless” nature of it has no value. That isn’t going to change. Make suggestions for IMPROVEMENTS and Apple might listen. Calling the developers names assures that they won’t.

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