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The FCPX Personality Types
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Craig, do you think the timeline is well implemented, responsive, accurate in your hand and has appropriate levels of chrome?
This isn’t Esperanto, nodal or anything of the sort. There are serious problems with this software. It’s introduction is also a problem, the exit of FCP7 is also a problem. While I’m at it, dated events are not appropriate either. Where apples head is at, as expressed in this software, is a really serious problem.
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I have to wade through the mud to get to the poor souls trying to find out usable information. If it drives people away from the COW that’s not good. People don’t have a right to disrupt the classroom so others can’t learn, so others start to walk out of the room and go elsewhere.
It’s one thing to offer a critique but it’s another for people to start denigrating others who are trying to learn the software or even to try to understand why Apple made the decisions they did and how they may have been mistaken or not..
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No that doesn’t quite wash, the cow took the decision to open the fcp techniques forum specifically to allow the main forum to work itself through the broader issues arising out of what has just happened to FCP.
The poor souls are fine. And Craig – calling people who take a certain stance ranting youtubers is itself denigrating.
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[Marvin Holdman] “shortcomings of this program, and the ramifications of trying to install it in a shared, multi-user environment, incorporate it into external data systems and deal with their old projects NEEDS to hear someone say… “it sucks for that”. “
That’s useful to say that. It’s useful to say why specifically that’s a problem too. But once that’s said it might be worth moving on rather than repeating it to the point one can’t find what others have to say it becomes counter productive.
If you look at the App Store you’d find that about 40% of the ratings are 4 or 5 stars. In this forum you’d think it was 5%. Maybe the others who read this forum sulk silently away to another place. Maybe one might want to hear from those people as well. We all have different needs from our tools.
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Aindreas,
I have a question for you. Why do you spend so much time on this forum putting FCPX down and the people who would like to learn it?
The Cow used to be a great place to learn about new things, but its people like you that are dragging it down. Maybe its time for you to take your ball and go home!
Forrest
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I’m dragging the cow down? Good god please. If I am I’m not alone, if and when the cow thinks the conversation is needlessly distorted, I will bet you they will step in and make a statement to that effect. Ars technica just published an editorial piece critically examining apple’s commitment to the pro market based on what has just happened to FCP. This is a live issue. And this is an open forum, you don’t tell me to go home I don’t tell you to go home.
Right now the timeline and the amount of chrome on it is bugging me. When I forget about that I’ll remember the use cases for the source viewer, then I’ll start to thinking about the stupidest replacement for a three way colour corrector man ever made. This is not going to quieten down until we see the colour of apples cards in the next dot release. I’m learning PPro which isn’t wildly hard, amd then, like a lot of people, I’m coming on here and arguing quite a bit and tearing into stuff I don’t like. It’s a forum.
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Exactly.
If you are a TYPE C – please leave us alone. Put TYPE C in your sig in scarlet letters, and go away. Go to the Premier forum where all the PRO’s hang out.
If for some reason you come back because FCP X is so fast and so amazing – we all get to make fun of you for the way you treated all of us TYPE A’s. 🙂
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “Craig, do you think the timeline is well implemented, responsive, accurate in your hand and has appropriate levels of chrome?”
As far as implementation, some parts yes and some parts are incomplete.
Secondary Storylines must be easier to create for when one needs “tracks.”
Clip Connections open the door to a nodal way of building and I like that but sometimes that’s not depending on the job. I’d like a preference setting so one can work in Storylines much like tracks or an easy way to create such Storylines if you need to have mixed use.I haven’t had any accuracy issues. I use the skimmer to get close and then I use the keyboard and it becomes a good old fashioned functional playhead. There are some issues in the Event Browser because they need to make it easy to go from List view to high detailed time frame. One should be able to go from All to 1/2 second in a keystroke. At 1/2 second the skimmer can be very precise. It’s too hard to get there though.
The Connect Clips lock to a specific frame and you can move that node point connection to another frame on a clip. That could become an interesting feature depending on where Apple goes with it.
On the other hand if you do a Slip edit on a primary storyline video clip and you have a long audio clip connected it could actually throw lots of things out of sync. I noticed Izzy bumped into that during one of his online tutorials. I’d have more to say on this specific problem because this is exactly the kind of “design philosophy” issue in which Apple has to sort out.[Aindreas Gallagher] “This isn’t Esperanto, nodal or anything of the sort. There are serious problems with this software.”
I’d say it is both Esperanto and nodal but neither the language or the full implications are complete. That’s why I’d consider this alpha although I think a very good alpha. To me alpha means not yet feature complete. To me beta is feature complete but needs to be torture tested for bugs. I like the design philosophy and I think all the problems can be resolved.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “It’s introduction is also a problem, the exit of FCP7 is also a problem.”
This is actually the most serious problem. The move from OS9 to OSX took a long time. OSX wasn’t really usable until 10.2.x which was actually the third version (10.0, 10.1, 10.2). It took about a year and half from 10.0 to 10.2 introduction if memory serves me. I can’t understand why Apple didn’t follow their past patterns of successful transitions. While I do think FCPX advancement will be accelerated, they put undo pressure on the development team. They created an environment where some post houses need to move to other NLE in order to expand. . . and that further hinders FCPX future acceptance.
It’s almost as if the marketing team made a best effort to make the development team miserable. It’s ironic that some would say this is typical Apple “arrogance.” Actually it’s not typical at all and that’s a real point of concern. Apple has always been about long transitions to new software and long EOL availability.
Heck you can still get iDVD as part of iLife in Apple’s Online Store even though it’s not in the App Store. Even when they did the radical iMovie change they allowed all new iMovie purchasers to download iMovie 6. So it’s not even a “prosumer” or “consumer” move as Apple had never done that to those markets.
In short, Apple’s marketing damaged FCPX, a good foundation, that by FCPX.3 might actually be a killer app.
[Aindreas Gallagher] “While I’m at it, dated events are not appropriate either. Where apples head is at, as expressed in this software, is a really serious problem.”
This is another design issue but I think this is easily fixible. If it’s to be a relational database there’s no reason why “date” should be the default “sort.” You’d think alphanumeric would make more sense.
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Fellas this is now also a de facto therapy group, deal with it.
Apple offered us sweeties and molested us.
Time will heal. So knock off the fascist ‘personality type’ shit.
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Very good post. Why is the ability to slip the connection point interesting?
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