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  • Resolve 9, PC and Prores render

    Posted by Timo Teravainen on June 12, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    I wonder if there is going to be prores render implemented on the V9 PC version of Resolve. There was a beta version of V8 that had it, but it was taken away from the release version. I’m actually still using that beta, to make life easier..

    Rendering to Prores is the only reason I even consider getting a Mac Pro instead of my PC boxes. At least in my country, Prores is the standard. Now it seems that Apple is not so interested in the Mac Pro line anymore, and I see no reason to get a soon EOL piece of equipment.

    I know it’s totally possible to render prores with some open source apps on PC, but it’s just saves so much time to render to the delivery format straight from Resolve, and not have to do a conversion afterwards.

    Aldo Barba replied 13 years, 9 months ago 11 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Gabriele Turchi

    June 12, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    actually looks like apple will be releasing new macros in 2013 (official yesterday statement ) so if you buy the lats macpro now (12 core ) it will be be the top of line for another year …
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  • Joseph Owens

    June 12, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    [Gabriele Turchi] “apple will be releasing new macros [sic] in 2013 (official yesterday statement )”

    If its that Tim Cook email, I wouldn’t exactly take that as “official”, its as ambiguous a statement as it can get. I would not hold my breath.

    jPo

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  • Gabriele Turchi

    June 12, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    new york times

    https://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/an-explanation-of-the-news-from-apple/

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  • Joseph Owens

    June 12, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    Yes, that’s the one:
    the Pogue report. This has been discussed.
    “Many Apple observers also wonder if Apple thinks that desktop computers are dead, since not a word was said about the iMac and Mac Pro. An executive did assure me, however, that new models and new designs are under way, probably for release in 2013.”

    So, this is actually somewhat less than official. If I were to extrapolate along the lines of the death of Shake, Color, DVD Studio Pro, FCStudio, LIveType, and others… the MacPro as we know it is EOL. “New Designs” means that what we are likely to get in 2013, if it actually happens, will be a MacPro X”, awesome [or awe-full, you pick], with iOS-something installed.

    The delay alone will almost guarantee that there will be no takers by the time the inventory is available. People who need to make decisions and make a living have other, better, options just a click away, today.

    jPo

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  • Robert Houllahan

    June 13, 2012 at 1:01 am

    I am planning to re format my machine soon and build a second one and both of them will be dual boot with Lion installed as a “Hack” and Win-7 on another partition. The workstation hardware available right now in the PC/Linux world just crushes the Mac-Pro. I also don’t think Thunderbolt is all that big a deal on a desktop machine.

    -Rob-

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  • Chris Kenny

    June 13, 2012 at 1:23 am

    [Timo Teravainen] “I wonder if there is going to be prores render implemented on the V9 PC version of Resolve. There was a beta version of V8 that had it, but it was taken away from the release version. I’m actually still using that beta, to make life easier..”

    Yeah, we’re setting up a new suite soon (the walls are going up right now) and we’re also trying to figure out which way to jump given the apparent lack of a ‘real’ Mac Pro update until next year. The HP Z820 is very tempting (I don’t like Windows much, but what’s it matter on a machine that’ll basically be a Resolve appliance?), but we deliver to ProRes all the time. Knowing whether ProRes output is coming to the Windows version of Resolve would clarify our options immensely.


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  • Chris Martin

    June 13, 2012 at 5:59 am

    Our engineers have been testing using FFMPEG open source to write out prores codecs. Not quite as easy as having it on the export but so far no shifts which is more than you can say about using quicktime…

  • Jimmy Christensen

    June 13, 2012 at 6:19 am

    DPX as the intermediate format? Just curious…

  • Timo Teravainen

    June 13, 2012 at 6:20 am

    I have understood that there will be DNxHD quicktime rendering ability on the V9. Which is great! But with Prores, are there licencing or other issues that prevent having the encoding ability on Windows Resolve? Encoding works with ffmpeg, as Chris said, but it’s a bit of a hassle, and it would be such a time-saver to not have to do another encode outside Resolve. I wish someone from Blackmagic would chime in, if possible.

  • Chris Kenny

    June 13, 2012 at 6:23 am

    [Chris Martin] “Our engineers have been testing using FFMPEG open source to write out prores codecs. Not quite as easy as having it on the export but so far no shifts which is more than you can say about using quicktime…”

    Funny you should mention this, as I’ve just been doing tests with it tonight and I was planning to spend some time on it tomorrow on some faster hardware at the office. The image encoding seems solid from what I’ve seen so far, and I’ve gotten it to embed timecode. If I can talk it into embedding reel names this might form the basis of an interesting workflow.

    Still, if Blackmagic could see fit to include this in Resolve, it would solve a lot of problems on Windows. It seems especially important in light of the new dailies processing features in Resolve 9, ProRes being an extremely common format in which to deliver editorial dailies.


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