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  • Is DV25 411 equal to 1-1?

    Posted by Chaz Shukat on July 5, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    I’ve taken over a project on an Xpress Pro that has been digitized at DV25 411. They tell me that’s how it’s going to be broadcast on cable network, no up-rezzing! Say’s they’ve done this before. Is this kosher? Is it an “online” resolution?

    Also, how do you bring up the scopes on the Xpress Pro? They tell me they exist but I can’t seem to find them.

    Thanks,

    C=-

    Chaz Shukat
    Author of “EDITING REALITY”
    http://www.chazmoedit.com

    John Pale replied 18 years, 10 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Joe Womble

    July 6, 2007 at 12:01 am

    You can bring up your scopes by clicking on “Tools/Video Input.”

    You can also see either a waveform or vectorscope as one of the windows in your color correction toolset.

    Regards,

    Joe Womble

  • Chaz Shukat

    July 6, 2007 at 2:05 am

    Joe, the first thing I checked was the tools. There is no video input under tools. This is an Xpress Pro, not a MC. As for the color correction, I’ve looked all over that interface, don’t see how to bring up scopes.

    Chaz Shukat
    Author of “EDITING REALITY”
    http://www.chazmoedit.com

  • Grinner Hester

    July 6, 2007 at 2:36 am

    you really need external scopes but as Joe mentioned you can use the scopes in the video input tool while capturing.
    DV25 is 5:1 compression in a 4:1:1 color space. It is not an online quality but it is aired everyday. “broadcast quality” is a relative term as 4th generation vhs is broadcasted. Doesn’t make it pretty… just makes it a matter of opinion as to what is aired. To me it depnds on only the sunbject matter but each network has their own set of rules.

  • Rhewitt

    July 6, 2007 at 4:37 am

    External scopes are always the preferred choice.

    From memory the Tools/Video option only appears if you are connected to a Mojo. Sort of makes sense – without a Mojo you’re only outputting to DV unless you have an AJA/Black Magic card etc.

  • Chaz Shukat

    July 6, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    I don’t have a Mojo. If there is a way, please be very specific as to what and where and how because I still don’t see any way to bring up scopes, Video Tool menu or, color correction mode or otherwise.

    Thanks for the enlightenment on the DV25 411. I didn’t think it was equivalent of 1-1 as I was being told.

    Chaz

  • John Pale

    July 6, 2007 at 2:13 pm

    [Chaz Shukat] “Thanks for the enlightenment on the DV25 411. I didn’t think it was equivalent of 1-1 as I was being told.”

    In a sense, it IS 1:1. DV is compressed 5:1 IN THE CAMERA/DECK. The Avid is not adding any compression when you capture it. Recapturing 1:1 will not make it any better, if it was DV to start with. It cannot be “uprezzed”…it is what it is. Just set your renders to 1:1 in the Media Creation settings and your effects and graphics will improve by not recompressing as DV.

  • Chaz Shukat

    July 6, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Great post John, that clears up a lot for me. 1-1 means no compression, even if its DV quality, which I’m not used to thinking of as “online” quality.

    BTW, is DV25 411 different than just plain old DV25?

  • David Braswell

    July 6, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    DV25 411 = DV25, yes, they are the same.

    Toolset–> Color Correction to bring up your scopes.

  • Chaz Shukat

    July 6, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    OK, I guess I’m not being clear enough about the scopes. I don’t mean the color correction scopes, I mean regular video scopes (that let you check and see if you are within broadcast limits) and vector scopes. :-}

  • David Braswell

    July 7, 2007 at 3:54 am

    That’s what I mean too :-> Chaz, in the hidden triangle dropdown of the color scopes(histogram and parade), you can choose Y, YC, and a vectorscope. Additionally, depending on your version of Xpress, there is a broadcast legalizer plugin. Check for all this in the help file. Of course, there is no substitute for a good hardware scope. But, this is better than nothing.

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