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Vegas 12 Pro on Mac Pro
Any body know if Vegas 12 Suite will run on a Mac Pro? Using VM, Boot Camp, Parallels, or Cross Over?
If 12 will run on a Mac, will the Mac GPU aid rendering?
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I would think the performance in any virtual machine would be disappointing, considering how much it taxes real hardware. Your best bet would be with boot camp.
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You cant go wrong with Boot Camp!
Its also quite possible that Vegas
will soon be available for Mac.
Soundforge is already there.Steve Rhoden
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I have tried CrossOver (Wine), but can get Vegas to load. I was hoping to move back and forth from Vegas and FCP.
Boot Camp it is.
Thanks
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In the rendertest2010 database that I ran on the Sony Vegas forum, the fastest renders were on Mac Pros running on Boot Camp.
https://www.mmdv.com/sonyvegas/rendertest/index.php
The password is “vegasuser”.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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Thanks all for the info!
Anybody know if an ATI 5770 for Mac video card will speed rendering in Vegas 12? I will be loading BootCamp to run Vegas 12 on a 1,1 Mac Pro upgraded from two dual core processors to two quad core Zeons (8 core,8 threads total)
Regards
Thank you,
Brent
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I have no empirical knowledge, just as an observer of the data. (And I’ve never touched a Mac – my hands are still virgin).
GPU support is just that – support. At some point in the arms race of processor power and Cuda Core count, raw processing power will take the lead. In other words, with a sufficiently fast processor, rendering will finish faster without GPU support.
I would think that a pair of quad Xenons would be way past that line.
Steve Mann
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It’s an interesting question if Windows’ programs can utilize GPU to off load some resources and speed rendering on a Mac. Freeing resources is key… keep smooth performance to edit while rendering.I’ll load BootCamp and Vegas 12 and report back for anyone who is interested. I’ll compare CPU only times Mac vs PC too.
The eight cores is of course faster than the four previous, but it still takes longer than one would guess in FCP.
I have a PC running an i7 930 near 4GHz, and it does ok. The PC needs a new GPU (running dual Quadro FX 4500) with processing cores. 2 to 3 times the rendering speed seems a good value for a few hundred bucks.
I’m trying to make a smooth work flow from FCP to and from Vegas. Also considering a common data storage solution or both.
If you have it, can you send a link to the test comparing Macs and PCs.
Regards
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The link is above:
https://www.mmdv.com/sonyvegas/rendertest/index.php
The password is “vegasuser”.The reason I THINK that Premiere uses the GPU better than Vegas is because Vegas goes through OFX and Premiere talks directly to the GPU. (This is just speculation on my part, but no one who knows has said either way).
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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found the link you sent before! Thanks
Thank you,
Brent
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ok, here is what I found trying to load Windows on a Mac Pro 1,1…..
Never could get 64 bit Windows 7 or 8 to load in Boot Camp. Did load Windows 8 32 bit. Keyboard becomes unresponsive before the 64 bit installer loads. This is likely related to the EFI32 in the Mac’s code. Early Macs Pros (1,1) actually are 64 bit but work on 32 bit via BIOS or software. This can be overcome by loading some fairly simple lines of code… I did not go the final step.
I did get Windows 8 64 bit to load in Parallels. So loading a 64 bit Windows OS on a Mac Pro that likes 32 bit does work within a virtualized environment. Loading Vegas 12 at this point is easy to install.
Now performance… Very, very, very bad! Did I say bad… I meant BAD! This Mac Pro is running 2 X Zeon Quad cores (8 cores, 8 threads), and an ATI 5770 GPU. Vegas running in Parallels showed unaltered Mp4 media ran at 12 to 21 fps (actual 29.97). Two effects slow down preview to 5 fps and 4 effects went down to .4 fps. Rendering was 5 to 8 time longer than the same clip using an i7 930 PC.
Well, throw out the idea of running Vegas virtualized unless you have plenty of time. I am going back on the path and find that code needed to move the Mac Pro 1,1 from 32 bits to 64 bits.
If you are considering running cpu intensive Windows based software on a Mac Pro, make sure the Mac is 2008 or newer. Make that 2009 just to be safe.
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