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  • Rendering My Project Right

    Posted by Sistine Graves on May 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    Ok, so I just want to first say how much I’ve appreciated CreativeCow for all the info I’ve gotten off of here before ever posting. 🙂

    This is my first question for the forum, I am working with someone on an independent film. She has edited it and I am doing the score as well as some other things graphically. I am attempting to stabilize the opening shot of the film and that is being done in After Effects, but before I can do that she gave me the raw footage which includes the clap board and the set up of the shot which adds alot of time to the shot and tracking a shot for stabilization of course can take quite awhile to render and such so I am cutting the shot down to just what I need in Sony Vegas.

    My problem arises when aafter Ive cut the shot down and I am trying to render the edited shot out to be the same quality ass how she gave it to me which is the following parameters.

    HDV 1080-60i (1440x1080x12, 29.970 fps),

    When I attempt to render it out to this degree 3 things occur.

    First off, it renders out to 1440x1080x24 (instead of x12)

    Second, the image is now smaller and when watched in windows media player there is a black box all around it

    And third, the final shot is very choppy!

    Can someone help me understand what I might be doing wrong….

    Thank you.

    John Rofrano replied 16 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    May 25, 2010 at 12:57 am

    You really should use a digital intermediary like Cineform for this kind of work. Cineform NeoScene is only $99 USD and is exceptionally good for rendering between Vegas and After Effects. IMHO, it’s a must have tool in any HD kit. (BTW, I have no affiliation with Cineform at all. I just use their products and pay for them like anyone else)

    If you want to use HDV then make sure that your project properties are set to HDV and use an HDV template for rendering and you should get pretty much the same HDV quality as you started with.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Sistine Graves

    May 25, 2010 at 1:04 am

    Thank you for responding John 🙂

    I did in fact try to use a preset HDV preset and after rendering the 45 second shot, which takes a few minutes to do, it comes out choppy…

    I’m not sure why it does, but if I compress it to a lower rez template it comes out fine, just granier and I don’t want to apply my effects to degraded footage.

    I will look into the product you mentioned, but is there any advice or insight as to why when I render out to HDV it becomes choppy?

  • Sistine Graves

    May 25, 2010 at 4:20 am

    I actually picked up the trial for NeoScene like you suggested and that compression works out the choppy-ness of my uncompressed renders.

    Now, I have one qualm with it. I’ve noticed that when I render it out of Sony Vegas with NeoScene in HDV, the movement in the picture isnt as smooth as the original.

    Any suggestions or fixes for this? Any tweaks to the NeoScene compression I can do? I’m trying differant ways, but I feel its something I may not be thinking of.

    Thank you for any help, from anybody.

  • John Rofrano

    May 25, 2010 at 9:35 am

    What do you mean the movement in the picture isn’t as smooth as the original? What are you using to determine this? It could be that your PC just can’t play it back smoothly but there is nothing wrong with the footage. The Cineform footage will be exactly the same as the original unless you changed frame rates or something.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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