[Xavier Dolz]

Can you demonstrate that with a video?
I am willing to see those 2 seconds.
I can demonstrate with a video (if you want) that you need at least 13 seconds.
But please, be precise, use chronometer to measure the time it takes you to apply those keyframes.

[Xavier Dolz]

why not to use it?

Some reasons here:

• Closed system. You never would have Boris red, Newblue FX, etc.
• Camtasia produce a .trec file, a closed system you wouldn’t be able to open anywhere. You cannot export your timeline from Camtasia to VEGAS.
• A closed system won’t allow you to do justified text… if you produce a videotutorial and you have to explain things, you have to present the things nicely, justification is something you wouldn’t find in Camtasia. With VEGAS, you have thousands of plugins doing this. Using a close system as Camtasia, have those problems.
• By the way, Camtasia 32 bits, VEGAS 64 bits…
• Camtasia, zero options to correct the color of your movies, VEGAS, all the options, nice plugins… For gamers for example, uploading videos to youtube, they need color correction, you wouldn’t find that in Camtasia…
• And the latest versions from Camtasia 8.6 (don’t dream with a major update, we are waiting 3 years… 3 long years…) won’t allow you to export to VEGAS. Camtasia use a propietary codec tsc2 and it cannot be used with third party applications (again, it is a closed system). After many complains from the customers, version 8.6 added the capability to extract media streams from TREC recordings. However, you will find only a video file, you won’t find the applied zooms, and so on, so we cannot export the timeline.
• Callouts and titles are the same in Camtasia the last 3 years, with VEGAS you can use New Blue Titler Pro 4 and do amazing things that captivate the audience and create amazing videos.

Camtasia is so old, that videos looks “hicks” (sorry).

These are just some reasons… if we continue we can have a bigger list…

We have to use it, because we have the dual keyframe system and there are no options outside to finally be free and jump to other platform. It is sad. If we all have the same keyframe system in VEGAS, for sure people would jump immediately.

And finally, why not a new release in 3 years? That is a big mistery.

[Xavier Dolz]

Hi Marco, I can demonstrate you the way you suggest is slower with a chronometer. In fact, it is 13 seconds slower, to add the workflow you use. 13 seconds, for every zoom.
I don’t know what kind of videotutorials you upload to youtube, but, for large videotutorials (3 hours or video or more) we can be talking about 400 or 500 zooms. We are talking about a delay of 45 minutes or even more per video, adding keyframes.
If you want me to, I’ll be glad to upload a video in the following conditions.
Camtasia, on the left side, applying a zoom.
Vegas on the right side, applying a zoom by inserting manually all the keyframes.
And the clock on each sides, to see the delay.
You’ll see VEGAS is 13 seconds slower or even more.

[Xavier Dolz]

Hi wwaag, it’s all clear, you don’t want to help, fine. You are not obligated, however this question was directed to the forum, not just to you exclusively. This forum is big… it has many members…

Regarding moral lesson (you can do as we did, you can learn yourself, etc.) A forum is to give help for those who want to give help in the measure they want to give help, but not for beg. We all already have the users manual, but we all still using the forum. As soon we beg or supplicate, we reduce the human condition. Colaborate, help yes. Beg, never. There are different moral views to understand the problem.

Additionally, I consider important to clarify several things of why this script is very important.
Again, this is not exclusively to you and I am not willing to convince you, this is to anyone that read this and is willing to help.

– This script would help MILLIONS OF PEOPLE uploading videotutorials to youtube.
– Actually any video editing software in the world works with a double keyframe system.
– Copying and pasting keyframes manually, involve around 5 to 10 seconds in each operation. For a videotutorial with around 200 zooms… we have (in the bast case) 5 seconds x 200 zooms = 1000 seconds. That would be 16 minutes wasted in video editing. That is copy, paste, press ctrl + c, press ctrl +v again… press ctrl + c, press ctrl +v again… press ctrl + c, press ctrl +v again… press ctrl + c, press ctrl +v again… press ctrl + c, press ctrl +v again… and so on.
– With the double keyframe system you would save those 16 minutes.
– Having in mind videotutorials need to use extensively the zoom feature, we are talking about hours and hours of video editing

To understand why a double keyframe system works better for videotutorials is very necessary to take a look to this picture.

– Camtasia never insert a single keyframe. In other words, when you insert a keyframe in Camtasia, you would never have an odd number, you always have an even number.
– And why groups of two? To have zooms already created with a fixed period of time (very useful for videotutorials). Here this start (1) Here this end (2)…

To understand this better and see how it save time in the workflow, please, watch this video.

https://youtu.be/Hkj5JT1zbRA

For those willing to help, just remind this statistics:
– There are 400 million videos in Youtube
– Many of them are videotutorials

Just think about how a script of this kind could help the global VEGAS community

Cheers

[Xavier Dolz]

No replies? Is this impossible?

[Xavier Dolz]

Ups, I am sorry, yes, absolutely I am using SONY VEGAS Pro 13 😀
I would need a script that allow me to advance the cursor 1 second the right for example.
The perfect script I need would, for example.
By pressing ctrl + t the cursor advance 1 second in the timeline
By pressing ctrl + alt + t the cursor advance 5 seconds in the timeline
By pressing ctrl + shift + t the cursor advance 10 seconds in the timeline
That script would save my life
😀

[Xavier Dolz]

Hi, yes I am very interested.
However I am not very sure about what is a script? I guess it is a set of commands written in a language and VEGAS can load that and perform a function? right?
Never used it.
I am very interested, however, I would have to adapt your scripts… and how may I do that?
I would like to move to the right, the cursor, let’s say 1 second.
Is very difficult to do that?
Cheers

[Xavier Dolz]

Do I need the codec?
I have Camtasia Installed so the codec should be present in my system…
This is what Techsmith says…

https://www.techsmith.com/codecs.html
TSC2 Codec
The TechSmith Screen Codec v2 (TSC2) is included with Camtasia. Download this decoder to play an AVI or MOV file that is encoded with TSC2 on a system where Camtasia is not installed.

Also I want to open a trec file, so I guess it is a container and inside we would have an AVI or MOV file, encodec in TSC2. I guess we have two problems.

1) Open the trec file (container for the AVI / MOV, etc.)

2) Make VEGAS understand the encodec file in TSC2

[Xavier Dolz]

Hi Russ, should I have QuickTime Pro? With your method would I lose quality? I would like to maintain the same quality of the .trec file in the .mov file
Perhaps a video conversor could convert that tsc2 format to a format VEGAS could read?
Do you know any video conversor for videos with tsc2 codec?
Cheers

[Xavier Dolz]

Hi,
I’ve used a free utility, MediaInfo from Digimetrics and this utility open the file and inspect it, telling us what kind of file is, even if it has a different extension, MediaInfo open the file and tell us what’s going on inside.
Here is the report:

General
Complete name : H:\LIBREOFFICE BASE\capture-20.trec

Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : Base Media / Version 2

Codec ID : mp42

File size : 591MB
Duration : 47min.
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 737Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2014-10-23 22:48:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-10-24 00:09:27

Video
ID : 1

Format : tsc2

Codec ID : D0

Duration : 47min.
Bit rate : 1 224Kbps
Width : 1 920pixeles
Height : 1 080pixeles
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 14,967fps
Minimum frame rate : 2,308fps
Maximum frame rate : 30,000fps
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.039
Stream size : 416MB (70%)
Encoded date : UTC 2014-10-23 22:48:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-10-24 00:09:27

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 47min.
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 254Kbps
Channel(s) : 2canales
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44,1KHz
Stream size : 86,2MB (15%)
Encoded date : UTC 2014-10-23 22:48:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-10-24 00:09:27

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 47min.
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 254Kbps
Channel(s) : 2canales
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44,1KHz
Stream size : 86,2MB (15%)
Encoded date : UTC 2014-10-23 22:48:35
Tagged date : UTC 2014-10-24 00:09:27

So what I see is… this is a mp4 and the codec is mp42

Okay, I’ve renamed the file from .trec to .mp4 and if I try to drag and drop to the VEGAS time line, I cannot. I think I had a similar problem in the past when I tried to drag and drop AVI files, and that problem was solved when I installed the codecs.

So… would I need a colled called mp42? or tsc2?

Cheers