William Terrio
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William Terrio
May 3, 2013 at 6:17 pm in reply to: Need to change codec without conversion. xdcam to h264These shots all need to be put into a timeline to be edited with the other canon clips I mentioned. The problem is that the raw footage was already rewrapped using XDCam Transfer, and now it will not load into the timeline on my PC. It plays fine in VLC, but that’s it.
As for h264, I wanted to change the codec to that since the raw Canon footage is already h264, and I thought it’s typically better to work with all the same stuff. And the canon videos are so beautiful, I have to wonder if it is as bad as Kris says, no offence.
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Im fine with conforming audio, since that probably takes up hardly any space on the hard drive.
I found a forum post online where someone said XDcam Transfer only “rewraps” the footage to a different “container” without effecting the quality. I’ve been trying to find an exact definition of Rewrapping, but couldn’t find one, but it seems to mean that it just changes the format and codec, but doesn’t effect the quality. My coworker seems to think that changing the format to MOV with xdcam transfer actually increases the quality of the raw footage somehow, because it’s using extra files that are placed with the mp4. But I doubt that.
He also said that “nobody edits using MP4s” because they can cause trouble with editing due to being inefficient or something. Can you confirm that editing with MP4s and MOVs transcoded from those MP4s is basically the same thing? I know some editors can start to glitch and crash when they have too many videos from a type of format, and I don’t want to run into that here. -
Alright, might be in a different situation now. Apparently Premiere can run the raw MP4 clips right from the sony BPAV files. We ususally use XDCam Transfer to change them into the .movs.
My co-worker is saying that we shouldn’t edit with these MP4s because they aren’t as efficient and as high quality as the mov versions. Also, when dropped into the timeline, it says Conforming [clip name] in the corner to all the MP4s. He’s saying that’s eating up a ton of data, but according to a different discussion on here, it’s apparently just doing the audio, which I would think is very minimal.
So, in short, what I need to know is, should we stop converting all these raw MP4s to MOV(because they are the same size, taking up double the hard drive space), or would we be sacrificing quality by using the MP4s. -
Alrighty. I got FFmpeg before because that was the only other thing I read that could help solve this issue, but I couldn’t figure out how to get it to work for the life of me. I have very limited knowledge of command line stuff. I did manage this time to run what you said to do using some dragging and dropping, but it didn’t work. Here’s what it spat out.
C:UsersWill>C:FFmpegffmpeg-20130318-git-519ebb5-win64-staticbinffmpeg.exe
-i “G:TOH 505 videoTOH 505 Cook ConvertedTOH 505 EX Chip 1�00_2634_01.mov” –
vcodec copy -acodec copy output.mp4
ffmpeg version N-51054-g519ebb5 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
built on Mar 17 2013 21:08:32 with gcc 4.7.2 (GCC)
configuration: –enable-gpl –enable-version3 –disable-w32threads –enable-av
isynth –enable-bzlib –enable-fontconfig –enable-frei0r –enable-gnutls –enab
le-libass –enable-libbluray –enable-libcaca –enable-libfreetype –enable-libg
sm –enable-libilbc –enable-libmp3lame –enable-libopencore-amrnb –enable-libo
pencore-amrwb –enable-libopenjpeg –enable-libopus –enable-librtmp –enable-li
bschroedinger –enable-libsoxr –enable-libspeex –enable-libtheora –enable-lib
twolame –enable-libvo-aacenc –enable-libvo-amrwbenc –enable-libvorbis –enabl
e-libvpx –enable-libx264 –enable-libxavs –enable-libxvid –enable-zlib
libavutil 52. 19.101 / 52. 19.101
libavcodec 55. 1.100 / 55. 1.100
libavformat 55. 0.100 / 55. 0.100
libavdevice 55. 0.100 / 55. 0.100
libavfilter 3. 47.102 / 3. 47.102
libswscale 2. 2.100 / 2. 2.100
libswresample 0. 17.102 / 0. 17.102
libpostproc 52. 2.100 / 52. 2.100
Guessed Channel Layout for Input Stream #0.1 : mono
Guessed Channel Layout for Input Stream #0.2 : mono
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from ‘G:TOH 505 videoTOH 505 Cook Converted
TOH 505 EX Chip 1�00_2634_01.mov’:
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
comment : 060a2b340101010501010d43130000000580c2b4576305dc0800460202
2d0610
comment-eng : 060a2b340101010501010d43130000000580c2b4576305dc0800460202
2d0610
timecode : 09:56:46;21
Duration: 00:00:20.55, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 36218 kb/s
Stream #0:0(eng): Video: mpeg2video (Main) (xdvb / 0x62766478), yuv420p, 192
0x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 34653 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 2997 tbn, 59.94 tbcMetadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be (lpcm / 0x6D63706C), 48000 Hz, mono, s16,
768 kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
Stream #0:2(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be (lpcm / 0x6D63706C), 48000 Hz, mono, s16,
768 kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
Stream #0:3(eng): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74), 0 kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
timecode : 09:56:46;21
[mp4 @ 00000000020e68c0] track 1: could not find tag, codec not currently suppor
ted in container
Output #0, mp4, to ‘output.mp4’:
Metadata:
timecode : 09:56:46;21
comment : 060a2b340101010501010d43130000000580c2b4576305dc0800460202
2d0610
comment-eng : 060a2b340101010501010d43130000000580c2b4576305dc0800460202
2d0610
encoder : Lavf55.0.100
Stream #0:0(eng): Video: mpeg2video (a[0][0][0] / 0x0061), yuv420p, 1920×108
0 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 34653 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 11988 tbn, 2997 tbc
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_s16be (lpcm / 0x6D63706C), 48000 Hz, mono, 768
kb/s
Metadata:
creation_time : 2013-03-06 17:48:52
handler_name : Apple Alias Data Handler
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)
Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (copy)
Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters ?): Operat
ion not permitted -
hmm, I replied but I don’t see it appearing, so I’ll retype it.
Thank you for your response and info. I haven’t heard of rewrapping before. the Streamclip program doesn’t seem to have any rewrap function though. And only the audio loads when I load the clip.
Another thing is, I need this footage to be able to load again when I open the timeline on a mac. I don’t have a mac at home, but I do have adobe premiere, so I was hoping to work on this project at home and bring it in to work when it’s done, but this codec is making that impossible. -
Thank you for the suggestion and info. I’ve actually never heard of rewrapping before. I looked through all of Streamclip’s options, and I didn’t see anything about Rewrapping footage.
Another thing is, when my project is done, I need to be able to load all the same mov clips back into the timeline when I load it up on a mac. I don’t have a mac at home, but I have adobe premiere, and I was hoping to just open up the project and work on it at home, but this stupid codec is causing a world of trouble.