Tony West
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Very cool post Michael.
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i’m getting one.
It’s more computer than I need right now but it might not be 10 years from now.
I have gotten 10 years out of my current Mac Pro so if I can get 10 or more out of this one great.
I heard about a possible 32TB internal raid for storage that would slide into it. I would love getting all my attached storage inside it.
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[Oliver Peters] “Tony, I have those files if you want to take a look. Send an e-mail or ping me through the website.”
OK I just did thanks
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[Oliver Peters] “The fundamental disconnect is “
That you and Greg had no experience doing what I was writing about and tried to offer incorrect information based on your lack of knowledge and experience with it.
[Oliver Peters] “I see no way that the Frame player interface itself will ever properly provide discrete audio playback of multiple channel, 2, 4, 8, whatever, without either mixing or not playing some of the tracks.”
But I don’t really need you to see it, because………………I already spoke with them and they are on it.
You and Greg have been doing more flacking for the company that neither of you work for then they are.
To their credit they could have said “Nobody wants that Tony and we are not going to waste time and money on it.”
They said the opposite of that.
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[greg janza] “For anyone following this very convoluted thread”
It’s “convoluted” because you don’t understand how to create the file I’m talking about and rather than admit it, you are trying to prove that a workflow that you have no understanding of is not useful.
I knew you were lost when you suggested the IINA player which is incapable of playing that type of file and you would have known that if you had experience with this workflow.[greg janza] “if you use Premiere”
Irreverent in a thread about X, I don’t use Premiere, and I’m not sure you are right because you have yet to prove you know the file type.
[greg janza] “The only issue is potentially with the FCP X h.264 multitrack share function and how it gets treated when uploaded to Frame.io.”
Only partly right, it doesn’t have to be h.264 can also be a ProRes multitrack share but it at least you are starting to learn a bit.
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[greg janza] “Yes, that’s easy to understand. “
You don’t really understand it because you don’t know how to make the file.
[greg janza] “The question that never seems to be answered here is why would your producer want/need to have access to 6 channels of discrete interview sound for content review inside of Frame.io?”
For the second time, I want one file that the producer can just watch and the editor can have access to all the tracks.
ONE file for both.
Frame IO did not ask me why I needed that because they are knowledgeable enough to know why. They are in the process of likely making it happen for editors in the know.
The questions really is…………..Since Frame gets it, did it ever occur to you that YOU may be the one that needs to catch up?
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[Michael Hancock] “I believe Tony is saying that if you watch it on Frame.io you won’t hear all 6 channels, or at least not discretely. It will be a stereo mix, or it just completely dumps some of the channels.
Is that correct Tony?”
Yes!!! That is correct Michael.
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[greg janza] “My confusion stems not from a lack of being able to make use of split track audio in a player. I don’t use any player for audio editing – only a NLE.
“I think your main confusion is not understanding how to create the file I’m taking about in X.
[greg janza] “And the standard workflow for a producer or writer to review interviews is for an editor to either create a transcript or post up the interviews to a site like Frame.io. Neither of these options would necessitate split track audio. That’s why I’m asking about your workflow.”
I explained the workflow and you still didn’t understand it. It just seems beyond your scope.
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[greg janza] “I recommended the iina player because it’s a versatile color accurate player. It’s not a replacement for a NLE.”
Yeah, it’s good for color but it can’t play the sound of the files I’m talking about so it’s useless.
[greg janza] “Maybe it’s just me “ Yes! it is : )
[greg janza] ” I still don’t get why you would need split track playback in a basic player since all editing will occur in your NLE and only your editor would be the one determining which tracks to use.”
Because I could turn off certain tracks without even opening an NLE if I wanted to. The technology was already there for editors. I didn’t invent it. You’re OK with losing it because you can’t figure out a way to use it in your own personal workflow so you think it’s not necessary for anyone else’s workflow.
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[greg janza] “I would recommend that you abandon QT7 completely. To check the accuracy of a split track file import it into an NLE.
And for file playback use this instead: https://iina.io/“
It has some nice features but it can’t read files shared out of X as multitrack QT movies.
This is how I know you are not using the same file if you recommended this product. It will only play one track out of the 6 unless it’s a mixed down QT file.
Also I can’t see where you can turn off selected tracks inside like QT 7 can so that’s a no go, but thanks anyway.