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  • Tony West

    August 22, 2017 at 1:07 pm in reply to: Premiere Pro Workspaces

    “I just don’t get all the anxiety over tracks.”

    It’s not anxiety because I like connected clips better. Just like YOU don’t have anxiety over connected clips. You just don’t like them.

    I can see the advantage of swaping clips around in X but I don’t see an advantage to using tracks.

    Some like to organize with tracks but after 10.3 and Lanes I’ve got that also.

    So, why do I need tracks? Just seems like a hold over of how things used to be.

  • Tony West

    July 31, 2017 at 12:58 am in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [andy patterson] “I don’t doubt if I taught Premiere Pro or even DR at the college level the students would pick it up fairly easy.”

    It’s not rather they would pick up Pr easy, it’s would they pick X up easier.

    [andy patterson] “Some people do have brand loyalty that can lead to a biased evaluation.”

    You’re not like that though right? It’s those others.

    It’s just kind of funny to me. When X came out and people looked at the preferences they said it was too slimmed down and simple. It was attacked for being too simplistic. “Toy-Like”. Now it’s apparently as detailed as any other NLE. Flip Flop.

    I look forward to the video.

  • Tony West

    July 31, 2017 at 12:37 am in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [andy patterson] “Should you be talking up FCPX big time?”

    Yeah, it’s awesome. If you don’t believe in the product you maybe shouldn’t be working with people to transition to it. I wouldn’t want somebody helping me who didn’t believe in the product. People for the most part don’t like change. They want to know there is a payoff to make the change worth doing.

    [andy patterson] “If you worked for a real estate company three years ago”

    ahahahaha I’ll stop you right there. I kind of just deal with my REAL LIFE scenarios.

    [andy patterson] “markers were not as robust as what you see in the video below”

    Brian already took care of this so I won’t rehash, but even if he hadn’t, you gotta do better than markers to get me to go back to tracks.

    I like R14, and if it weren’t for X it might be my pick, but I’m not going back : )
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZgVZd9UmQ

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  • Tony West

    July 29, 2017 at 4:02 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [Oliver Peters] “[Tony West] “I on the other hand come in with a great deal of enthusiasm.”

    I had more enthusiasm for FCPX in the early days. But that’s waned after 6 years of using it. “

    I like it even more now than I did early on when it didn’t have that awesome multi-cam, or the option of Lanes and Workspaces. It’s a much better program now.

    I agree with many things on people’s list of things they want added though. Always room for improvement.

  • Tony West

    July 29, 2017 at 12:52 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [Oliver Peters] “I think some people are simply predisposed to think in a way that jives better with either FCPX or a more traditional track-based NLE.”

    I think it has more to do with how effective you are at teaching. Some people may be better at it than others. I know it was that way when I was in HS : )

    I saw the same results as Scott so we are likely going about things differently.

    Based on your posts on here, your tagline could easily be “FCPX, it’s OK, but nothing special”
    I on the other hand come in with a great deal of enthusiasm. Talking up the program big time.

    A person said to me, “Your enthusiasm for the program makes me excited about learning it”
    That was awesome. She pretty much put my theory into words.

    They were all levels, but many were talent that had just been doing simple cuts with 7 for their packages and handing off to the editors for anything more advanced. When I left they were tweaking their audio and tossing in motion graphics. Some of them never felt comfortable doing much of that before.

    The client told me, “You aren’t just grading them, they’re grading you.” I received high marks : )

  • Tony West

    July 28, 2017 at 12:34 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [andy patterson] “Those are the kind of questions you should be asking. “

    No they are not.

    Your point was that X wasn’t easier to for people to learn than other NLE’s. But you haven’t taught anybody X to even compare like others have.

    My point is that you are speculating vs people who have actually done it.

    [andy patterson] “I never stated I teach FCPX”
    I know. That’s my point. You don’t have any experience in what you are talking about.

  • Tony West

    July 27, 2017 at 1:07 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [andy patterson] “we have seen many FCPX users say FCPX is way easier than all the other old antiquated NLE.”

    Yeah, I would make the argument that for example clicking on that “noise removal” button in X is easier than completely doing it yourself in 7 do you disagree?

    [andy patterson] “That is why I found it odd that someone need to be taught how to use a super easy NLE that I was lead to believe everyone just picks up super easy.”

    They would still need to be shown where that button is. Or that there is one.

    Scott teaches people X for a living so he is speaking from experience. When you teach people X are you finding that they are picking it up fast? Or are you speculating what you think might happen?

    [andy patterson] “I do think Pinnacle Studio is easier to use than Premiere Pro for home hobbyists”
    Why?

  • Tony West

    July 26, 2017 at 1:21 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [andy patterson] “It is odd that someone would need help using FCPX. “

    Shouldn’t you have written, “it’s odd that someone would need help using any NLE

    Since your point is that they are all equally easy. Your statement implies that X is easier which is the opposite of the point you were trying to make.

    But then again I guess that would have setup this contradiction………..”I taught people how to use the Avid/Pinnalce Studio.” You shouldn’t have been teaching them that, because you said they shouldn’t need help. Right?

  • Tony West

    July 26, 2017 at 5:46 am in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [Neil Goodman] “but eventually they realize they need $ to fund those films ☺”

    They do indeed Neil, but there are some really cool things happening out there.

    They four wall and cut deals with small theaters. They use social media to drive free attention to their films and sell with Brown Paper Tickets or something like it.

    I have seen it in KC, Indiana and Augusta.

    I wasn’t aware of any of it until I started screening and speaking with owners.

    I’m fascinated by it.

  • Tony West

    July 25, 2017 at 12:04 pm in reply to: State of the NLE panel

    [Neil Goodman] ” I still can’t picture kids in school who want to work in Editing doing all this training because it’s their dream to do travelogue videos or snapchat stories”

    I don’t either. What I hear them say, is they want to make their OWN independent films.

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