Tom Sefton
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My point is that a contract will very rarely stop something like this. If a freelancer you are using for one day has such low ethics or common sense that they would hand over cards when working for you, a contract most likely wouldn’t STOP them doing it. I wanted to see your contract because I thought maybe you had an enlightened view on how to stop someone from doing this, and then reclaim future lost earnings from someone who poaches a client after a harmless exchange of business cards whilst on your money.
It wouldn’t protect you after the event either – it would already have happened, and unless you SAW them doing it you would be none the wiser. You can withhold $250, but so what? It has already happened – you might have had YOUR clients head turned.
Ethics and responsibility have a massive place in OUR industry. Young and old professionals need to respect their colleagues.
I’m not trolling Sebastian – I’m pretty upset for Ned that this has happened, but I don’t think that a contract for a one day freelancer would solve the problem. Sure-if you were employing someone for weeks and there were thousands of pounds/dollars being exchanged, then it is common sense to have a contract. But as most of us like to trust the professional they are hiring, a contract that says “you are prohibited from handing out business cards” wouldn’t be the first thing on their minds. The contract with the end client would be. I’m nowhere near as experienced as Ned or as many of the other professionals on this forum, but I do employ people on a weekly basis.
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Yes, so the last contract that you drew up for a freelancer that ensured they wouldn’t hand a business card…can we see it?
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So you make a contract with every freelancer you employ? Would you care to pass on the wording of that?
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I’m not missing anything. Trust SHOULD be implicit between professionals. This is a small job that shouldn’t require a contract. Do you have to draw up a contract with your mechanic not to rifle through your cd’s, take your loose change and cigarettes out of your glove box and text your wife to ask her out for a date? Your original post claimed the freelancer hadnt done anything wrong?
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What would you charge for filming an hour of b-roll?
What camera? What extras are needed-Lights? Autocue? Track? Jib? Is this for full ownership of footage? Microphones? Audio requirements? Location? Lenses required?
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No, it’s completely unacceptable. If you have to pay someone’s wages for the day, they are NOT allowed to hand out business cards, unless they ask you and there is no clash of services. I’m 31 and have been doing this for over 9 years. I would never have dreamed of giving a client a business card for anyone I freelanced for in the past, even when I knew they were doing a poor job. This industry is small. People talk, and behaviour like that might steal you 1 client in 50, but lose you 99 of 100 freelance jobs. Try handing someone $250 (at least) for a day, giving them a job to put on their reel and then see whether you are happy at them handing out cards.
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Bob your posts get me so fired up I want to punch the video editor that works a few miles from me and steal his wife. Love it.
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Did you ask him to go to the client and retrieve his business card and apologise?
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Try woowave
We demoed it on our pc workstation this week and it worked well. Syncs multiple video and audio streams and then exports an XML file for premiere or fcp.
Cost less than £50.
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I would hazard a guess that during busy season, wedding videographers would pay $50-$100 for an edit, boilerplate grade and then some AE work on a mass of h264 footage and stills from a Dropbox account. Poke a stick into some bears in the area and see if you get some honey.