[Tim Parsons]

Oh good. I wasn’t sure of your specific needs. Yes, auto heal works when the selected area is surrounded by a desirable noise. But if it’s surrounded by anything you don’t want there, it will put it there!

I ran into that problem whilst correcting some speech. I would auto heal a spot surrounded by the speaker’s voice patterns, and it created a funny electronic or robotic sound. So you gotta be careful how u use it.

Happy editing!

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[Tim Parsons]

@Jesse, The process you described seems like it work well for getting the speaker’s “silence” quieter, but still leaves all the noise with the voice of the speaker. As I understand Justin’s problem, he wants to separate the speaker’s voice from the noise. Expansion and compression would not actually accomplish this.

@Rob n Joseph, I agree that a crowd noise would need more finesse and tlc to get it to sound good, but I’m not so sure the crowd noise itself would be the problem. In my experience, ANY noise that is too loud leaves the voice sounding metallic and thin. Even room noise and hum.

The key is not the spectrum so much as pattern. Noise reduction works not my removing only selected frequencies (anyone could easily select a frequency and reduce it or delete it), but by analyzing a frequency pattern and removing only what matches that pattern. That is why a voice can be preserved when removing a generic room hiss.

When applied to a crowd noise, depending on the crowd size, the frequencies will likely be all over the spectrum. However, the pattern (or in this case the muddle) may be able to be isolated and removed. Again, it will take some work, but play around with it and let us know what happens!

@Rob, I knew a large family of Neidigs in Indiana. Do you have family there?

[Tim Parsons]

Not that I know of. The closest thing that Audition has is the ability to copy and paste audio. If you select the range of audio you want to replace, move the selection range itself (so that the “loop” remains the exact length) to a segment of noise that is the same length as or longer than your desired length. Copy the noise. Slide your selection area (again ensuring not to change the length of selection) back over top of the audio you want to replace, and paste.

NOTE: The selection duration must stay the same throughout the entire process or you will inadvertently change the length of your total audio file.

hope this helps!

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[Tim Parsons]

Ur in the wrong forum. this is for Audition and Soundbooth… audio software.

but to answer your question, you may try animating the direction of the particles. make them go up and down a bit. Your other option is to use Trapcode Particular, in which you can add turbulence to your particles.

[Tim Parsons]

Oh, a couple of minor details I left out… the extracted audio from the video elements are all 1536kbps, and the saving/opening takes over 15 minutes. closer to 20.

I am running Windows 7 Ultimate, 64bit, AMD Turion II P540 Dual Core, 2.40 GHz, 4Gb RAM installed (3.74 usable), and I think the video/graphics is integrated.

I realize my system specs may be slowing things down a bit, bit i’ve worked on smaller projects that did not lag at all. I think the .asnd project file and how it’s packed are what are causing my size/speed problems.

What say you?

[Tim Parsons]

I agree with Ron: David J., you are awesome! Reading your response helped me better understand the motives and potential outcomes… You are right. I need to wait to see that they won’t alienate users *before* i feel alienated.

“walk into the corporation’s boardroom and ask the board where the soda machine is” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ….. ‘nuf said… point very well made… hahaha…. **wipes tear of laughter from eye**

Now that THAT’s all cleared up…

Yes indeed! I love the COW and if I were to ever teach, I would definitely suggest it and VC to my students as a wonderful resource!

And don’t worry, David J. I would make sure they don’t use it as a crutch. I will be able to tell. 😉

[Tim Parsons]

@ David J, thanks for your response! looking back, i suppose i sounded like a jerk, and i didn’t mean to. But i appreciate your calm response to my knee-jerk post.

I will admit that no I am not totally familiar with the COW as others are. I only recently discovered it but at least know its potential practical uses.

I see the logic of what you say about relevant questions being buried by the “easy-A” crowd. And of course I didn’t mean that every question needs answered by an expert, but instead i meant that I think that every question at least **could** have access to an expert. 🙂 I realize some questions can be answered by someone with just a little more experience than I.

But as I understand it, it seems that if this compartmentalizing is carried to its logical end, a newcomer to the COW like me could only ask questions up to but not exceeding the intermediate level. how does one “earn” access to the experts?

I actually also understand the need for the moderation I have already received, since any public forum cannot allow just any language or content be posted uninhibited. But as I understand Ron’s comments, there will be a **new** moderation criteria based on experience that could potentially limit the COWs usefulness to the newcomers, like myself.

I suppose my question boils down to wanting to know more about this new moderation criteria that will soon be a part of the COW.

Thanks for your indulgence of my COW ignorance. 🙂

[Tim Parsons]

1st, I agree with the love of the COW. it is truly a wonderful resource! I also suggest VideoCopilot.net for the AE part of your class.

2nd, I must ask… how are the “newbies” actually hindering the experts? I mean, forgive my ignorance, for I only recently got off the automatic comment monitor list on COW. (I am new to the site, but not new to the industry.) But it seems like all an expert has to do is **ignore** the glaringly obvious newbies wanting an easy A. How does the newbie truly hinder the expert, as has been implied in this thread?

3rd, If, as you say, the newbies will be quarantined off until they earn the right to talk to the experts or unless the experts decide to stoop down to help them out, doesn’t that defeat the entire purpose of the COW?. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the purpose of the COW to give everyone access to experts? For example, myself. Technically speaking, I would be classified as a newbie. But suppose I, as a young, hard-working professional, have a pressing question about patching a Betacam deck through an I/O when my strict expertise is in video editing and effects. That would require knowledge beyond my experience and years, but it could be easy for a COW expert. If I were quarantined as a newbie, I would be stuck. And that, for certain, defeats the purpose of the COW.

Again, I could be wrong, but the whole idea of quarantine (or compartmentalizing as you call it) is counterproductive and you risk frustrating all those newbies who are truly trying to accomplish something using the COW. I highly suggest a square-one re-think of ways to streamline the experts COW experience without alienating the rest of us.

[Tim Parsons]

All this talk about “Stop whining and get back to work; you don’t need FCP in order to be good” is like telling a contractor to build an L.A. mansion with a hammer and saw. Sure a good contractor will be able to make an impressive tree-house with those tools. A *great* contractor will be able to build a basic house with those limited tools. But a mansion? Aint no way. Any contractor would need far more than a hammer and saw. He would need just about every tool in the book!

Same with FCP editors, like myself. Using FCP X, would we be able to produce some impressive shorts like local TV spots? Of course. Would we be able to produce some longer bits like simple in-house presentations? Probably. But anything of substantial scope and reach? No chance!! We would need multi-computer collaboration, proper communication with other softwares, access to old project files, and so on that FCP X simply does not offer.

Apple really messed up. They took away our tools, replaced them with limited ones, and still expect us to build the Colosseum! Not happening. If you need be reminded of the real issues, here is a comprehensive list. https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/final-cut-pro-x-whats-missing-for-some-pros

That being said, I think a petition, though sound in principle, is the wrong way to go. Apple needs to read the reviews, listen to the professionals who consume their product, and make the proper changes. That’s how capitalism works. A petition is not going to cut it. Apple needs to take their lumps, learn, and fix it.

Anyone reminded of the “New Coke” fiasco of the 80s?

Just a thought.