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Thomas Felton
December 7, 2012 at 11:48 am in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

Thank you John, very good to know. I will be practicing this from now on!
Thomas Felton
December 7, 2012 at 6:24 am in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

This stuff seems complicated to me as I would consider myself a beginner within the confines of being technically sound in color and rendering.

Creatively I know what looks good but the technical aspect seems a bit of a challenge for me right now. You have really all helped me out a great deal and opened my eyes up to a world of things I would have never considered.

I really appreciate all your help and taking the time to read and post your advise. I always felt that people on forums get the info and take off. I just wanted to make sure you guys know how grateful I am of your help.

Thank You

Tom
Thomas Felton
December 7, 2012 at 6:18 am in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

I believe I found a good solution my problem of “what you see in photoshop is what you get in a video render”

what i’ve done was add a “levels” filter on the top layer of my photoshop image, I adjusted the values to 16-235.

It obviously changed what my existing image looked like, but I was able to add another levels filter underneath that layer and boost the levels so it looked how I wanted it.

I then saved the image with the top layer levels filter OFF and then rendered it in vegas…

What happened? The image came out the same. viola !

Everyone’s post on here helped push me in the right direction for finding a solution.

What did I learn? I think it is best to always work within the confines of 16-235 when editing for video so the levels are more consistent after renders.

Now I’m wondering if the Contrast, Luminance is also affected ?
Thomas Felton
December 6, 2012 at 2:20 pm in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

Thanks John for the great reply and for including those images. From your images, the WMP and Youtube look the same levels on my screen. The rest are the same in that I see a difference in the values.

What am I using to determine video is coming out darker?

Here’s an example of what I’ve done:

For this recent particular test, I made an image in photoshop that is different shades of red. I’ve saved it as a .PSD (Photoshop) and a .PNG file. I look at them both in Photoshop, they are exactly the same. I look at them in windows photo viewer, I look at them online, etc. They are the same colors, everything. is consistent across the board.

Then, I bring the PSD and PNG images into Vegas. I notice they have changed as soon as see them in the preview, They appear slightly darker. I also notice the PSD and PNG images are different from each other, even though when I look at them in Photoshop they are exactly the same.

Now, I render the images out as an mp4 and open in VLC, WMP, Quicktime, and upload to YouTube.

I side by side look at the original image in Photoshop/web browser/photo viewer and have the mp4 open in WMP, VLC, QT, and YouTube.

I notice the difference from the what the image looks like verses the mp4 in all of the players.

Now I’m going to compare my original image to the mp4’s in their respective players:

WMP – Looks more orange, more contrast than image.
Quicktime – More pink, same contrast as image, less definition on the resolution also.
VLC – More pink also, but not as much as Quicktime. same contrast as image.
YouTube – Looks the same as WMP, more orange, more contrast than image.

What I add the computer to studio rgb they are still off. However, the WMP and YouTube are looking closer to my original image. The VLC and Quicktime still look awful, They’ve changed too but almost for the worse.

You see anything in what I’m doing that might be causing this issue for me?

What I would love to know is…

How can I render a video in Vegas of just an image and have it look just like the image?

I don’t want to color correct the image in vegas because obviously I could spend an hour color correcting, rendering, comparing, editing, re-rendering, etc. until it looks the same. I just want an image to render out the same as it looks on it’s own. There must be a way to do this.

Thanks John
Thomas Felton
December 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

Hi Mike thanks for link, I’m reading it right now. There seems to be a lot of chat about this. I have some learning to do. Hopefully I come out of this thing wiser.
Thomas Felton
December 6, 2012 at 12:13 pm in reply to: Sony Vegas mp4 render dark, more contrast, color change, brightness

Hi Nigel thanks for the reply.

I’m curious, I bring in a picture and render it out, it changes color. Why is that not possible to stay the same?