[Terry Flaxton]

I cracked it. Very simple in the end – output an 8k file 4 mins at 76 gig. I put to Premier cc2018 then used it’s HEVC output to get 2.67 gig The only issue in all of this is I can only see the quicktime pro inspector that tells me it’s 8k whilst only allowing HD display on my HD screen – so it’s a trust issue. I tried quicktime 7 but it won’t recognise the file (of course ☺ ) so I’m doing an upload of the 8k HEVC file to vimeo which will no doubt squash it to 4k as it doesn’t have an HDR flags which seems to be their additional requirement for 8k upload. I may do a section up to utube to make sure that works but I’m not sue I’ll bother after this as I’ll tell clients to look at the 4k and imagine 8k when we can do it. An Additional question as I only have HD screens and with Quicktime 7 (6 of them so holding on before upsizing to a samsung tv or LG – all of this kit is much more expensive in the UK). I used to check 4k blown up via Quicktime 7. So am I right in I presuming the Quicktime that sits in Catalina will show at 8k if it’s got an 8k screen on the end of the chain – so the attendant question from me to if you know is if you’ve got a 5k screen does the latest quicktime automatically resize to a nearby resolution like 4k or whatever the size of screen it’s dealing with?

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Thanks Joe – sad to say that’s what I expected though I will check out Handbrake – Won der Share (a bad name on Cow hence the syllables) claim 8k HEVC but I can’t find out how in ‘custom’ as it blocks you – and also Vimeo says it does do it but then you’re uploading 80 gigs for 4 mins and anyway I tried a snippet and it comes out at 4k… (seems like it has to be HDR through the chain)

I’ll check out Handbrake but yet again we’re at the limits – Thanks

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Hi, I have no interest in further compressed codecs – other than what FCPX outputs to write on Vimeo which is if I have to share for a team (composer, collaborators etc). So I can use Resolve Studio if I have to come out of Pro Res. I wasn’t clear about the afterburner. Years back I bought a red rocket but shortly after they got overtaken by computing power… Thanks again.

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Ok so this is to everyone who responded to my post about maxing out a 5.1 Tower and yes Bob Zelin I am now biting the bullet. So here’s the question – I am solely using FCPX an often run 4 – 10 layers 4k with many effects:

I can buy either a 16 core 2020 mac with some internal extras such as a vega card and/or an apple after burner

Or I can buy a 24 core 2020 mac plus a little extra ram but no internal vega nor after burner

Both will have 128 gig ram and an internal OWC 4tb M2 and also a 16tb M2 at 5800 mbs for non stutter playback)

which route should I take?

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Patrick – that’s very kind of you to tolerate my questions. Your help produced a real world increase in my knowledge and material circumstance. It may well be that I go across to a new mac and all the rest – but technical knowledge is important to acquire and go though understanding. Thanks again to you and all who helped.

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Herb – I should say I’m pretty convinced I’ll go to a new mac shortly – mainly because of the background architecture and I can see in the next year going up to 8k for what I do (because the market I work for is requiring that). All the outboard storage I have – around 90tb of it is esata so there is a reason to keep one machine going at the old level. I’ve been migrating since 1976 onwards – effectively leapfrogging by having a set of working macs in various OSX’s – and it’s always a question of when to reinvest. I have a mac museum.

So: “performance of GFX card upgrades”: are you talking about assisting the cores in their work? And how many cores is relevant? I have 12 at the moment so how many would make that shift impossible not to do? 16 or even 24 maybe?

And with Catalina as opposed to Mojave (because I can upgrade to Catalina easily enough with the 5.1) so I’ll have three OSX’s working on the same machine at different points) what exactly is that going to give currently? (I get it that it’s a future upgrade situation that is the main selling point).

This one strand has given me 1000 mbs extra on a drive due to my own stuck in a box mentality (and thanks Patrick) so thanks to everyone here for responding.

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Patrick – I tried again and put the 4MT2 above the Saphire 580 and blocked it up enough to clear the blades, put the tempo esata back (which shouldn’t work in Mojave according to both Sonnet and apple) but does and it all now works – I’ll check it for over heating.

Thanks you again, I’ve just got an extra 1000mbs and can watch what I’m doing in 4k in best quality in best performance! Fantastic.

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Patrick – I knew there was a reason that I didn’t put the $M2 in the second to bottom slot: The Saphire RX580 graphics card is big and when you add the 4M2 just above it which has two little elements hanging down into the path of the fan blades….

So the only other possibility is a new graphics card with a lower profile – $$ (and I chucked out an nvideo Quadro K2000 for the 580)….

And I hear that the Expansion slot Utility that went is now coming back with the new macs and catalina – I wonder if I should go from Mojave to Catalina just to get that to move slots around with expansion slot utility? But then I have a tempo esata card that still works on Mojave (when I beleive it shouldn’t) will Catalina kill that operability???

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Yes I did see the news report and immediately worried about arm chips and how they just might not work with older software that would get modified and lead us down the same apple maze that’s been going on for years. It makes me wonder – because we all might think of Steve Jobs as being the golden era (albeit broken up into different parts and histories what with the head of windows getting hold of it and signing away core ideas), but he was interested in instability too. These days however the costs are huge – but and this always comes right back at you, the other routes are equally unpalatable…

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –

[Terry Flaxton]

Hey thanks – you are right about the top two slots – it’s 22.00 at night here in the UK but will try this tomorrow morning and report back. There’s a graphics card in the bottom slot.

Thanks

Made my first video in 1976, A long term programme maker, DP, editing etc – changing with AR/VR/MR media –