Sk880user
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Sk880user
April 26, 2006 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Panasonic HVX200 workflow questions (used to DVCAM).[sk880user] “This statement by itself suggests that the optical performance of the HVX is at least better than HDV-based Cameras. Yes, it is closer to HDV than 2/3” camera but at least it is better.
[Stephen reply]
Independent testing by Adam Wilt and co. doesn’t back you up here. Of all the third inch chip HD cameras tested, they said the HVX 200 produced the least sharp images of the lot (around 550 lines). Certainly in comparisons I’ve seen between HVX and VariCam footage, the HVX footage looked noticeably softer. But then again sharpness isn’t everything!My post was referring directly to your quotation:
“While this camera records HD video onto the recording media the optical performance of the camera is closer to the performance of an HDV than to a professional 2/3″ camera system.”
Remember, I did not quote this, You quoted it. I was simply commenting on it.
2) I have read the result of Adam Wilt and co, which included Barry Green by the way, and their conclusion was not the way you are putting it. The way you are putting is you are making HVX to be the worst. However, Adam Wilt testing made them all almost equal. However, most of the testers ended up choosing HVX over all.
[sk880user] So if we construct a scale from 1 to 10 representing the difference between the optical performance of HD 2/3″ cameras and HDV Cameras, where HD 2/3″ cameras are at 10 while HDV 1/3″ Cameras are at 1, the HVX will probably be rated at most less than 5 and at least more than 1. Probably 2, maybe 3.
[stephen]
How on earth did you arrive at this sliding scale of quality? By empirical testing? Or perhaps it’s simply a mental exercise?Simple: Your own quotation that you used in your post:
“While this camera records HD video onto the recording media the optical performance of the camera is closer to the performance of an HDV than to a professional 2/3″ camera system.”
So is it ok for you to use such quotation only when it serves your purpose? You need to be willing to accept ALL CONCLUSIONS and not just the ones that serve your purpose. The above quotation, which you used, demonstrate the above fact.
[sk880user] This makes lot of sense if we take Barry Green’s test comparing the HVX with the JVC. I have seen still images for that test and the color performance of the HVX is clearly superior.
[stephen]
We all know how much Barry Green enjoys his HVX 200 and tends toward being a Panasonic sycophant. You’ll have to do better than that!I have seen the images and they confirm that HVX is superior. Now, do you believe that maybe Barry intentionally took bad footage from JVC to make it look bad? Maybe he manipulated the images in post? Or maybe he did not know how to utilize the JVC correctly? I am very curious about this.
[sk880user] I would say if one desires true 24P 1/3″ HD Camera, HVX is probably the best choice.”
[stephen] I’d say the jury is still out on that one. Lets see some real-world user tests, not just a whole bunch of SPEC-ulation!
based on your quotations, Adam Wilt testing, and Barry Green testing, I would say if one desires true 24P 1/3″ HD Camera, HVX is probably the best choice
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Sk880user
April 26, 2006 at 12:30 am in reply to: Panasonic HVX200 workflow questions (used to DVCAM).“While this camera records HD video onto the recording media the optical performance of the camera is closer to the performance of an HDV than to a professional 2/3″ camera system.”
This statement by itself suggests that the optical performance of the HVX is at least better than HDV-based Cameras. Yes, it is closer to HDV than 2/3″ camera but at least it is better.
So if we construct a scale from 1 to 10 representing the difference between the optical performance of HD 2/3″ cameras and HDV Cameras, where HD 2/3″ cameras are at 10 while HDV 1/3″ Cameras are at 1, the HVX will probably be rated at most less than 5 and at least more than 1. Probably 2, maybe 3.
This makes lot of sense if we take Barry Green’s test comparing the HVX with the JVC. I have seen still images for that test and the color performance of the HVX is clearly superior.
I would say if one desires true 24P 1/3″ HD Camera, HVX is probably the best choice.
Cheers
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I need to be able to do reliable and professional Green screen work. Is HVR Z1U recommended for it?
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Thank you very much for the info. What do you think of Sony Z1U? I would like to use it for green screen shots as well.
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That’s interesting. I can ask you million questions…
why did you choose 50i and 60i? Why not 24p and 25p?
Why the HVX200 was not used for green screen shots?
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Gary,
Thank you very much. You are correct. I won’t be using HDV but DV.
If I will be using PAL camera, should I be using 50i or 25P? Also if I used DVX100a with 24p, won’t that convert nicely to 50i at the end?
I appreciate your all your help 🙂