Shawn Whiting
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Right, but i should be able to cut up that large clip into separate clips once its inside AE right? I’ll just leave a bit of fat on the clips when i compile them into one large clip in PPro.
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Hey Dave, thanks for the fast reply!
“Why not do the whole shot — foreground AND background — in AE? It’s a whole lot easier to identify trouble spots in the shots. Not to mention color correcting.”
Yeah when i say Key out the green screen I guess i didnt say it, but I assume we will put the background in at that time too. My friend will be the one doing all the AE work. I just need to have a good idea of how I will be accommodating him in my workflow. We will both be working off of my computer as it is much faster than his.
“I’d prefer to export out only those shots that need AE work. Of course if you’re doing all the color correction in AE, you make a good point.”
If i did choose to only export out certain clips, i would need to collect them all on a timeline and export them all out as one large clip, otherwise it would take forever if i had to do them individually. For one large clip, i guess I would want to export as cineform as its supposed to be able to maintain fine over multiple encodes.
I was assuming AE had better color correction, and I would say about half the shots will have some sort of brightness or color correction.
I believe the CS4 Master Collection comes with a DVD authoring program. I dont know which one it is, but yeah im assuming ill be able to handle encoding to mpeg2 then importing into that program and adding some minor menu buttons and graphics.
“That’s a bit confusing. By its very nature, a DVD IS standard-definition. A DVD can also be 16×9. Are you confusing 16×9 vs. 4×3 screen aspect ratios for HD vs. SD?”
no i meant that they want DVD copies and a SD web export. So in both cases a SD output, which i guess is irrelevant to say because we all know DVD is SD, just poor choice of words.
Heh yeah my friend is the one who will be doing the AE work, he seems to have a good handle on using it for keying, not sure about other effects.
I suppose the real question now is whether I want to try to dynamic link my whole project into AE then export a final version from that or PPro. Or if it would be easier to export only half the clips from PPro, import into AE, then back into PPro for the final export?
– Shawn
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Anyone on the question of what lossy codecs can stand the most wear and tear?
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right, but are all the lossy codecs equal at handling re-encoding or might some codecs stand up better than others?
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hahaha thanks for the input Gord, I think I will have to sit down with my friend and see what we can work out and run some tests.
As far as codecs you know that can withstand the most re-encoding, which would you recommend? Doesn’t matter if their mac or PC only, just want to know what codecs can stand the most wear and tear.
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Yeah that’s good advice Noah.
If I could get my friend to buy and do the effects editing on a PC would that make it any better in terms of avoiding quality loss? or is any transfer of footage from one computer to another going to lead to degradation?
I could try to argue for doing all of the editing on my PC, but it would require frequent trips to my place for my friend.
– Shawn
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“What exactly is your back-and-forth process going to be?”
You pretty much nailed it.
– capture files off SD card onto my PC. I would like to drag the .mts files into separate folders and rename them at this point, and also delete clips that i know i will not use. This is why i like both DNxHD and Cineform codecs as they do not require the entire folder structure.
– Transcode to Cineform or DNxHD.
– Edit down to rough cut in PProCS4
– Send transcoded files that need green screen keying over to my friend on his Mac, i think he will be using shake.
– Get files back from him, put back into PProCS4, Make final cut, export.
– send to my friend on his Mac, insert text / motion graphics / effects. Export to DVD and web.
Although now that ive written this out it seems silly to have sent the files to my editor after the rough cut for green screen keying. Perhaps I should just edit a semi final cut in PProCS4, export, then bring the whole cut onto my friends Mac for green screen keying and everything else?
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Can i batch convert / transcode my AVCHD files on my PC to ProRes? What programs do this? Do they require the original file structure off the SD card? It would be a bonus to me if they could just work with the raw .mts file and batch convert as i would like to organize and rename my original ,mts files. Thanks!
– Shawn
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Thanks Gord,
However it looks like Neo HD is the least expensive option for re-wrapping between Mac and PC as neoscene’s HD link does not have that feature activated. So with two copies of Neo HD ($499 each), i would be paying about $1,000 for something im being told i can achieve just as well with DNxHD codec. Unless im missing something?
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that helps a bunch Gord, thanks again.
can someone explain to me how i would make a “proxy” of my footage in CS4 then switch back to the original files? im not sure how this process works.
Also, if i decide to shoot most of my project in 72030p, then want to use the dynamic range system on the HMC150 and i shoot a few shots in 72060p, would that be a problem for editing?
would shooting everything in 72060p be a bad idea?
Thanks!