Shannon Baker
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I don’t think its selling point is that its smaller. Its selling point is that its extremely reliable, fast, and can hold bit rates higher than a lot of other formats (especially for its size). Its certainly not the only solution. Its not quite as bad as making another tape though in the field. We use small dell netbooks for the offload. Our monitors are about as big as this netbook. Our whole system is automated which means, we have everything logged and organized before ever getting back to the editing room. Then, we don’t have to log anything! Meaning, instantly ready to edit. We have the same workflow with AVCHD but with slower transfer speeds, a less reliable medium, and a codec we feel isn’t quite as good as DVCPro HD (although please note, I’m not calling it bad either). Like I said, it was daunting several years ago when we went all digital onto the solid state media…but now that I have, I wouldn’t have it any other way. The advantages have outnumbered the disadvantage of bringing along a netbook. At least for us it has. But once again, the advantage isn’t its size, rather its the quality, speed, and higher possible bit rates in my opinion.
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I may sound like I work for Panasonic, but in my opinion, P2 is one of the most reliable recording formats out there. I wouldn’t trust that type of information on an SD card. I’ve seen SD cards fail and have heard of more that have failed. I haven’t heard of one P2 card failing. I’m sure someone has failed one somewhere, but we’ve never had a problem. I am totally with the original poster though…I would LOVE to see an AF-100 with P2 cards. I’m a pretty big fan of Panny, but I’ll admit, I thought the move to AVCHD was a bit of a slap in the face to those that invested in P2. All I know is that the more accessories I buy for my canon, the harder its going to be to switch!
SB
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Mike, we have been using P2 cards for several years now (have the original HVX and HVX A’s as well). It takes a little getting use to, but once you have a work flow, you’ll never want to go back to tape! It will be scary at first as you don’t have a physical tape to hold onto (its just bits on a hard drive), but you get use to it, and the time savings is amazing. We offload everything in the field. With small dell netbooks with PCMCIA slots, and an automated program called P2 Forge, all we have to do is insert it into the slot, and it does all the rest. Come back a half and hour later with the next card and swap them out. At the end of the day, all of our footage is logged and ready to edit. All we have to do is mount the hard drive to the editing computer.
We found two ways of doing this effectively in multi-cam shots. One way is that we have a laptop for each shooter and each person offloads sequentially onto their own system. Second way is to have someone in charge of offloading. Everyone gives her the cards and she copies and organizes them individually. Now that we’ve been shooting P2, I can’t imagine going back. Here’s to hoping a P2 AF100 comes out soon!
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How did Jan not address the issue? She said it was shutter speed. She said that you could fix the problem by changing the speed. Of course she’s going to reference her product as she probably knew the website by heart. She didn’t say he couldn’t make the 7D work and the Panny was better, just saying they use the same codec but yet she had proof the Panny could do it, so the 7D could too.
As for the subject at hand, I personally don’t like AVCHD either. I’m a DVCPro HD fan myself…but use both. Why hasn’t everyone moved to P2? Ask yourself, will you pay that much for the cards? I did…and love them, but a lot of people won’t. It doesn’t end there either…as you need more storage space too. Try transferring data to a client. It takes a hard drive! Point I’m trying to make is that I believe cost in general is one of the reasons we have the HDV’s and AVCHD’s of the world. But that’s just my opinion. 😉
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Jan, good to hear! I too was wondering the fate after seeing the AF100 come out. Any chance we’ll see an AF100 utilizing P2 cards sometime in the future? That would be fantastic!
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Hmm…not sure if I’m having the same issue, but I’m getting a strange 1 frame drop out. There are a few differences though. One, I’m not using the AJ-PCD20 at all. I’m transferring the cards one at a time through a laptop PCMCIA card slot. Thus far, it has occurred on multiple cameras, multiple cards, and multiple hard drives. We use P2Forge for our transferring. Our hard drives are simply connected through USB 2.0. We have two laptops that we use to transfer. I can’t prove this 100% yet, but I think only the one is having the issue. I also think the problem may not be occurring when using USB 3.0 (but I can’t confirm that either just yet). Anyway, this is a shot we were rolling on to get some audio (and before the white balance!)
Anyway, maybe this helps you guys out in your problem…and maybe hopefully can help me as well! Any suggestions, I’m all ears!
Thanks,
Shannon