Shane Ross
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[Bill Davis] “Well, with the benefit of 7 years of hindsight, those who analyzed it as “Apple no longer cares about pros” were being pretty stunningly short-sighted.”
Yes…we are. We have ZERO historical reference in which to base this on (Shake). No reason to think that Apple puts general consumers (iWatch, iPad, iPhone) over professionals (no MacPro update in 5 years…iMac Pro simply a band aid, limited expandibility…MacBook Pro, form more important than function, slimness over better cooling for faster processors). There’s simply NO REASON we should ever doubt Apple doens’t care about professionals. #sarcasm.
[Bill Davis] “Roles wasn’t exactly designed for home movie shooters.”
No, it’s implimented for professionals. I’ve said before, FCP-X is great for consumers (cheap, easy to use) and good for professionals (cheap, easy to use, useful features…buy add-ons when/if needed).
[Bill Davis] “And all that Rec2020 and ProRes RAW plumbing seems like s bit of a stretch for editors seeking improvement on their next cat video.”
Yes…things they are adding later. Almost as if it were an afterthought…because of massive blow back from professionals. Oh, yeah…ProRes RAW, only works with Apple…no third party. As stated, with over 2 million users, you have a wide base, ranging from cat video makers to broadcast TV. But really…how many cat videos do you suspect were cut with FCX, opposed to cut with Avid? I’m going to wager the favor is in Apple’s court on that one. BUT I AM NOT CALLING FCP-X NON-PROFESSIONAL. Just noting that it is used by more than professionals. And again, I’ll wager that the vast majority of users who use it aren’t professional editors. not saying they might not use it for monetary gain…some might. But I will wager most users are home users. But there are no stats on that, I know. IMHO
[Bill Davis] ”
“Giving up on pros” started out as a canard – and remains one.”They bought Shake…then killed Shake. Why? To grab the image stabilizing technology for…wait for it…iMovie! Yeah, they have a great track record with Pros lately. Release a MacBook Pro that throttled the processor…only fixing it AFTER huge blowback. Apple makes its money on consumer goods, not professional ones. Ever since it shifted focus from pro users to consumers, it went from a niche company with 5% computer market share to the biggest company in the world. So, being a business, with this in mind, where will you put a majority of your focus?
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[Steve Connor] “it was about Apple suddenly EOLing a piece of of software used by millions with no path to upgrade projects”
Not sure it was millions PLURAL. I don’t think Apple hit 2 million until FCX came out.
BUT, that, IMHO, is a fair assessment. They did change the software to meet the needs of a majority of it’s users….and I will hazard that most of the users of FCP-X aren’t professional editors, but hobbyists, or even those who are content creators for things that do make money, but they themselves aren’t only editors, but have multiple hats. One thing I did get from the forums are the sheer number of people who didn’t need all of the professional features that FCP pretty much required in order to work…transcoding to an editing codec, external monitoring for example. They just wanted/needed drag and drop editing and to do a few simple things…but also have great graphics for lower thirds (inclusion of Motion templates). So all of this “you need to transcode” and “do your clip settings match your sequence settings” and “are you using drop frame timecode” was too much for them.
Yes, a LOT of professional editors use FCP-X…I’m not saying that. I still hazard that most of the users (without any stats to back this up…it’s opinion)…aren’t professional editors, but do produce a lot of content (a lot that might be paid). FCX happens to fit the needs not only for those who aren’t professionals, and just want to get a quick video out there…but it also does serve the needs of many professional fields as well. THus why now it’s in the millions of users (plural) range. Something I can say that Avid is not. Avid no doubt doesn’t exceed 500K users…if even that.
Not that number of users is a measure of success. Just saying.
Shane
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In the bin, right-click on the clip and choose REVEAL FILE. This will open the folder on the desktop that has that clip, and highlight it. Copy that clip to a drive, or upload it for them to download.
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The default video bit rate is 15Mbps…that matches the spec they supplied. Now they said they want it higher? What do they want? You can go into the video settings in the INSPECTOR and change that to what they want. Audio…I don’t see any way to change that using Compressor…even the new one. So if they want that changed, you might need to use a different encoder…like Episode.
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[Hope Holmesby] “so h.264 and pro res only work now w fcp 7 and quicktime..”
No…H.264 never really worked with FCP 7. It seemed like it might, but sync issues were rampant. Always needed to convert to a FCP 7 editing codec.
NOW..for QT…yeah, that’s the issue. Apple is phasing out QT, and so they have been making things not work. QTX was never ever fully featured…it was LESS featured than QT 7. But even that, in later OS versions, couldn’t read some codecs, and neeeded to convert them.
If you want to continue to use FCP 7 fully featured, then you need to stick to the older OS versions. Every version made one thing or another stop working, and with High Sierra, support for FCS 3 was completely dropped.
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What OS are you running? Later OS versions cripple QT’s ability to read several types of codecs natively…and want to convert them in order to play them. Only ProRes and H.264 play natively in QT anymore. I see that you are cutting and outputting PHOTO JPEG…yeah, that’s one it won’t play back without converting.
But not open in VLC player? Hmmm
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Yes, this is done in Compressor.
Under the SETTINGS tab, open the APPLE folder, then the FORMATS folder, then the MPEG-2 folder. In there you’ll see three settings, Elementary Stream, PROGRAM STREAM, and Transport stream. Choose Program Stream.
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Bring it into PRemiere or Resolve…that will show you the data rate, no?
And thanks for the education on the XDCAM 50 spec being set to a data rate of 50. Makes sense. Also why it is 8 audio channels, always 8 audio channels, nothing less, nothing more. I too have this deliverable, but do it from Avid, and when I bring it back into Avid to check the file, that’s where I see all the metadata.
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Yeah, this will have to be done in Avid if the clients want an organized project in Avid. And if you don’t know Avid….IMHO, you should pass. For things to be done right, you really need to know the app. Might be a good time to start learning it, so that you won’t have to turn work down. I know Avid, Adobe, Resolve…but not FCX. And I’ve had to turn down work because I don’t know FCX.
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[Joe Bags] “- Can I somehow take my Premiere project … with all the folders, buns, scene Take, Description, Notes, etc… and bring that information back to Avid?”
Nope…sorry, there’s no way to do that.
[Joe Bags] “So far, the only way I know how to go from Premiere to Avid is an EDL. Would the EDL keep the Scene | Take | Description | Notes | Etc?”
AAF works…but only partially. Might not relink to the footage, or all of the footage. Best bet is to do XML to Resolve, and AAF out of resolve, transcoding the footage to Avid media. But then that’s ONLY the footage used in the cut…this isn’t the source footage, the bins…anything like that.
[Joe Bags] “Or would I have to redo all of that in Avid? The director and final editor will be using Avid and wants to see the description, Scene number, and all that info.”
Redo everything in Avid. Trying to port things from Adobe will take a lot longer, and be full of headaches.
Shane
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