Shane Ross
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[Marc De Coster] “Is there a setting where I can ask Avid to automatically remove these IN and OUT right after I’ve made a manipulation?”
If you do a LIFT…Z…then they stay. A hole is left in the wake, and they stay because it’s assumed you want something else to go there. The only way to remove the IN and OUT points then is the G key, as Dave said.
When you EXTRACT…X…they are gone because the section you wanted removed has been cut out, and the gap closed. It assumes you want to keep the next shot and not overwrite it.
As for INSERT PASTE…it’ll only insert paste if you have the YELLOW ARROW selected…and you use the same CMD-V. OPT V isn’t a setting in Avid, it won’t insert paste like it does in premiere Pro. You have to have the yellow arrow selected, then COPY and PASTE with it active. And it will paste either where you have the IN point selected, or, if no IN point is selected, where the progress bar is positioned.
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A fad, at best. Like 3D was. There already were the CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE books, and they did quite well for some time. But then, traditional stories still won out. I predict the same here…but not as prevalent. Not sure this will go far. Personally, while I loved CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE books, I read like a dozen, and got bored. I haven’t watched BANDERSNATCH…I don’t want to choose my ending. I want someone to tell me a story.
Although, with the GoT fans all up in arms, maybe this would appeal to them.
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If you want to have hope to relinking to the RAW when the cut is done, best to redo them with the camera masters. That’s the only guarantee they will relink. Redoing with the files you have might strip away needed metadata
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The audio files and video files, while separate files on the finder level, KNOW they are connected. So when you bring them into an Avid system, one way is by making a bin and dragging the .MDB file from the media folder into it…it’ll populate with all the footage in that folder, and audio and video will be linked…due to metadata.
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[James Ault] “I let the sequences reside in 720 because I’m using some old SD footage in 4:3 I shot a while back with my DVCAM camera (didn’t know how best to handle it in 1080). But most of the footage has been shot with my SONY PMW 200 in 1920×1080 XDCAM HD422 1080p30 (50mbs). Your response suggests 720 doesn’t make sense here. If so, don’t know how best to convert the existing two sequences into 1080.)”
It’s always best to work in the sequence with the settings that match the majority of the footage. Also, in a sequence that matches what you want/need to deliver. In this case, most your footage is 1080p, and a good delivery would be 1080p. So now you need to fix your one sequence to be 1080p…and then that other one, will need more work. Fixing this will be a process, and take time and a bit of tech know how. I’ll have to see when I have time to dive into all of this.
But to outline…you’ll have to make a new sequence with the settings you want, copy and paste the 1080p footage from the 720p sequence, into the new one…and then fix all the sizing issues…the clips will all be scaled down to 720p. You’ll have to REMOVE ATTRIBUTES>SCALE. But if you zoomed in on any footage, or have stills in there, that will hit them too, so you might need to to it a few clips at a time.
The SD footage…you’ll have to make an SD sequence that matches the settings, then copy and paste into that sequence, and then fix the scaling issues there. Then, we will need to output this sequence, upscale it and change the frame rate…that might require hardware conversion…or something like After Effects.
BUT…if you just want to get this out to show people and show investors…you don’t NEED to do this yet. because getting this right will take quite a bit of skill and time, and I would suggest you hire someone to do it. Even a skilled online editor will have to throw tricks at this to get it right. Not really something that can be explained thoroughly in a post. BUT…for screening…keep things 720p, just output them separately to make two separate files, and then import them again, put them in one sequence, output again as a master. Yeah, the 25p will stutter a bit. Only way to fix that is with a hardware converter, or After Effects.
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[Bret Williams] “But of course you can. QT player X is a much better editor. You can trim, split, copy, paste, and basically do rough editing in QT Player.”
Ah, I guess I need to look this up then. Because the basics like MARK IN and OUT and extract and all the stuff I’m used to in QT 7 aren’t in QTX. I see SPLIT CLIP, but still no ways to mark in and out. Might take some learning.
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[Bret Williams] ” Yes very familiar. Here’s a new one though. I’m able to trim an h264 clip in Quicktime Player (everybody knows you can trim and edit in QT Player, right? ) and paste it to a new player and it seems I now have a standalone trimmed h264 clip. No transcoding seems to have occurred.”
Yes. QT 7 Pro. The discontinued QT player. And only the PRO version, that was unlocked with FCP Legacy….or if you purchased the PRO option for $30. Which you can no longer do, as it’s old, discontinued. QTX cannot do this. So here is a GREAT example of an amazing tool that Apple made that was fully feature rich and could do so much (I still use it to delete or deactivate audio tracks, or add audio tracks)…that Apple dumped. And the new player doesn’t do this, because Apple is ditching QT and moving to AV Foundation.
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[Brett Sherman] “That you can’t access the media itself without the software? No that’s largely only true of Avid.”
Incorrect. You can edit Avid media in Premiere Pro, Resolve…you can play back that footage with VLC player.
[Brett Sherman] “Are there cases with FCP? Apparently, I’ve just never run into those. Maybe I’m lucky with the codecs I used.”
As I mentioned earlier, OLDER codecs from FCP Legacy says…DVCPRO HD and HDV….two of the most common codec in the early days of HD video (lucky you missed out). If you captured those codecs in FCP, they ONLY WORKED in FCP…or rather, if you had FCP installed on your system. You had to have it in order to have the decoder for those formats.
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[Brett Sherman] “I guess I’ve been lucky. I’m not saying Apple’s history is perfect here. But at least there are options. As far as I know there are no ways to open and Avid .omf or .mxf file without Media Composer.”
VLC player will open them. As will EditReady….and the media player from Digital Rebellion.
[Brett Sherman] “It should also be said even if you have Media Composer, if you don’t have your Avid Project or it got corrupted, you are SOL for accessing the media.”
Incorrect. Adobe Premiere can open them, so can Resolve (that’s one way to online, consolidate the cut, export an AAF and bring the media into Resolve, and the AAF, and there is your sequence). IN FACT, I think FCX can even read the media files Avid makes.
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[Brett Sherman] “Yes at this point I could buy an Avid license and maybe open the projects. But 20 years from now? What if Avid drops support of OMF? Or goes out of business? At least with FCP X I know I’ll be able to access my media, if not the library file.”
OK…let’s look at Apple’s record in this reguard.
If you shot Panasonic P2 footage, in the DVCPRO HD codec, and used FCP to bring that in…it re-wrapped the MXF files as an MOV file. If you captured DVCPRO HD from tape into FCP Legacy versions…again, wrapped in QT. If you tried to open those QT files on any computer that DID NOT have FCP installed…you’d get a file playing white, and audio. The codec was so tied to FCP, that only computers with FCP installed could play that back. Found that out trying to get footage to a producer for logging.
Oh…and that’s not it. Same with HDV. If you captured HDV with FCP…that QT HDV file would only play on computers with FCP installed. It was THAT proprietary. Thank goodness Apple made a new codec (ProRes) where that wasn’t the case, but for how long?
This was even a stock answer of mine:
#48 – Cannot view DVCPRO HD or HDV or ProRes on my computer.Shane’s Stock Answer #48 – Cannot view DVCPRO HD, HDV or ProRes QT files on your computer.
The DVCPRO HD, HDV and ProRes codecs only comes with FCP. If your computer does not have FCP installed, it cannot view these quicktime files. It doesn’t matter if it is a Mac or PC, without FCP installed, you cannot view these files.
If you need to view ProRes material, you can download the ProRes decoder (mac and windows compatible) for ProRes
https://support.apple.com/downloads/Apple_ProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_for_Windows.
https://support.apple.com/downloads/Apple_ProRes_QuickTime_Decoder_1_0_for_Mac
If your footage was captured as DVCRO HD you can buy the Calibrated DVCPRO HD decoder:
https://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QDVCProHD.asp
HDV, XDCAM? Calibrated has you covered too:
https://www.calibratedsoftware.com/QXD.asp
If you have MXF files from a P2 camera and you need to view the footage on a computer without FCP, you can download P2CMS from Panasonic:
https://www.panasonic.com/business/provideo/p2-hd/downloads-and-updates.asp
Or you need the other party to compress the footage into a format your computer can play, like H.264.
So now you have all these people who shot on P2, or DVCPRO HD tape, or HDV…who brought in the footage with FCP…saved that footage ONLY, and didn’t back up the P2 cards, or threw out the tapes. And, Surprise surprise, they are stuck. FCX will open them, and computers with FCX…but that’s it! Back when P2 first came out and was one of the first tapeless formats, people would ingest the footage, and throw out the card offloads, or just erase the cards. “Hey, I have the footage, no need to keep it twice!” I had to warn about this so often, it should have been a stock answer. I tell people TO THIS DAY to keep the camera originals.
Those archived projects aren’t openable in the current FCP either…need an old one to do that, obviously. So that exactly the same situation you are talking about…with the old media. I DO wonder if Avid can even open those older bins with the sequence, and then batch capture the footage from tape…not needing to rely on the archived footage.
But with so many companies tossing out their tapes AFTER they capture all the footage (something I am seeing more and more lately)…I don’t think so. And then they’ll have captured in a codec that’s currrent for the day they captured, BUT…will get out of date fast. I’ve worked on archival docs where the original tapes are gone, and the vendor provided me with a “high quality avi” file…640×360, with interlacing baked in. Original tapes disposed of.
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