[Sean Ash]

Thanks, looks pretty good, I may well give it a go.
Sean 🙂

[Sean Ash]

ok, great, thanks a lot for your help 🙂

[Sean Ash]

cool, will do thanks Nicoloas. The edit is so quick I doubt anyone will notice it that much anyway, hopefully!
Sean

[Sean Ash]

love the second shot, it’s awesome. Andre the giant is certainly bigger than Andreea! lol!

[Sean Ash]

I hear that! Content/context is king for sure.
I think if we needed people to notice all the trouble we go to make sure theres nothing to notice, we’re in the wrong business!
Thanks again,
Sean 🙂

[Sean Ash]

That’s the conclusion I am coming to. I can blur it slightly, and it’s pretty much gone.
Might be a bit of hassle masking it butI can probably get away with blurring the blue channel and sharpening the luma a bit.
I’m sure you won’t even see it in the edit.

If the edit ends up online anywhere I’ll send you a link so you can see how it ended up, the girl looks pretty good anyway!
I’m sure it will be fine in the end, and fixing these little issues is what good post is all about after all!
Thank you so much for your help I really appreciate it.
I’m sure most people won’t be watching the BG anyway, not with
https://gossip-juice.com/spotlight/andreea-diaconu-lands-a-role-with-victorias-secret/
in front of it, lol!
Have a nice weekend,
Sean 🙂

[Sean Ash]

Hi,
thanks for your reply.
you can download a cropped section of the noise here:
https://www.hightail.com/download/bWJyV28rZ2preEM1aWNUQw

I have tweaked the contrast to highlight the noise a bit more.

I kind of expected a noisy background, but I’ve never seen anything quite this pronounced before.
It’s mainly in areas immediately surrounding the model. She looks absolutely fine and noiseless, but on certain movements she is surrounded by a jagged circular grad, that moves outwards from the main subject with certain movements.
I think it was obviously something that happened at the time of shooting but I don’t think 1600 ISO is that high, particularly on a 5d mk111. It looks worse than DV in some parts (on the BG at least)
I shot on the lowest compression setting and was getting a perfectly fine exposure on her skin tones.
I noticed that some of the takes were quite long (over 10 minutes), as she was being directed by the photographers and I had to leave the cam running, so perhaps I’m thinking this may be a possible cause too. not sure if it would affect the compression rate whilst shooting to keep as one file, even though set to lowest setting.
It would have been better to have more light in general, and next time I will insist on lighting the background separately. Its slight variations in the lighting/focus (F2.8 most of the time) that have given the 5d a serious headache it seems.

I got the demo of neat video noise reduction and it cant’ even find an area of the bg that is sees as uniform enough for a noise print, which seems crazy really.
I’ve also got magic bullet denoiser 11, so I’ll give those two a go first.

I’m accepting the fact I am going to have to fix in post somehow, so if they don’t work then I’ll do it with some hand masking/ blurring in AE or resolve with a few tracked masks and a bit of chroma blur. .
Fortunately the edit is only about 40 secs and it’s cut pretty quick so I think I can get round it.
fingers crossed. I am quite surprised though to be honest. I’ve shot with 5d’s for 3 or 4 years and never seen this before (although it’s obviously a far from ideal shooting situation.)
RED or alexa next time for sure, and lighting the BG separately even if the exposure on the model seems fine!
Sean

[Sean Ash]

HI Thanks for the replies guys.
@ Jeremy. I agree. I don’t think retranscoding will make any difference, For sure it’s in the footage due to the ISO/ light at time of shooting. Just wondered if anyone had any issues with the luma range settings etc.
I guess I’m just going to have to “fix it on post” :-))
I’ve been doing some more research and I’m just about to try magic bullet denoiser 2, to see how that gets on.
If it’s no good I’ll try the neat video one for sure, thanks @Nikolas.
I can also try some chroma blur/ sharping the Luma in AE failing that. I seem to have options now at least after trawling the internet for a few more hours.
If all else fails I can maybe get access to a full version of resolve, which has pretty good noise reduction by all accounts and you can again separate the luma and keep sharp so not to soften everything.
Anyone had any experience of the noise reduction in resolve vs magic bullet or neat video?
I figure it might be better but not sure it would make that much difference when starting with DSLR footage. Nothing can do miracles I’m sure
Anyway, thanks again for the advice guys, here goes with magic bullet!