Ron Shook
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Don & Craig,
Thanks for indicating that this may not be a problem. We still have to see how it works out in the actual wash.
[Don Greening] “He’s quoted as saying that you can use either your computer or camera to reformat a card as long as it’s formatted in FAT32.”
That would certainly be good if it works out to be the case.
When’s the EX scheduled for release in North America? Is there some sort of tentative date? I was sort of under the impression that it would be here by now.
Ron Shook
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Craig,
[Craig Seeman] “if you bring a laptop you can record NON STOP since one card can record while the other offloads into the laptop. 50 minutes of video would take around 5 minutes to load into that laptop.”
Just had a thought and perhaps you or someone else can speak to it. I’m sure I read somewhere that the cards can only be formated in the camera. What about wiping the cards of data prior to reuse, after you have copied them off with the lappy? Can that be done in the lappy or is it limited to the camera? You see the problem, vis-a-vis continuous recording, if it can only be done in the camera.
Ron Shook
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Ron,
[Ron Lindeboom] “The article was right at the time it was printed. YouTube shortly after changed their methodology.”
It’s too much to hope that the target will hold still in any significant way. Oh My! (g)
Ron Shook
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Ron,
[Ron Lindeboom] “The article was right at the time it was printed. YouTube shortly after changed their methodology.”
It’s too much to hope that the target will hold still in any significant way. Oh My! (g)
Ron Shook
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Raymond,
[Raymond Motion Pictures] “YouTube is very vague about video specs – other than frame size – So start high in your flv file’s bit rate – YouTube’s owner, Google, accepts my rightly sized flv video ads as is – 400 bit rate – they don’t appear to me to be re-encoded – neither sound nor picture – my clients love it – we have the best Google video ads out there and the click-throughs to prove it.”
I’m not sure that it’s reasonable to expect YouTube to accept the same bit rate for a free video upload as Google accepts for a paid ad even with YouTube being owned by Google. If you get away with it, great, but if you send YouTube a 400 kbps Flash8 flv video and they re-encode it to 200 kbps it’s gonna look like crap.
I’ve done some encoding for Web but not for YouTube. Could someone tell me whether there’s some way to do a re-do if the video comes out badly when you upload to YouTube, or…, can you ask them to remove it and then try again with different perameters? That would give you a chance to try and push the envelope and try again if it doesn’t work out.
Ron Shook
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Terry,
[Terry Esslinger] “Since the stand alone FlixOn2 runs $250 and I can get a full fledged Sorenson Squeeze for 250, which one would be the best?”
What Raymond says is flash on, so to speak. (g) Another thing to consider is that Squeeze is a full compression suite, not just the flash7 that it contains, while ON2 Flix is just the one codec, albeit the best for Flash encoding. You can add Flash8 to Squeeze as a plugin for $200. I forget what Sorenson calls the Squeeze version that contains ON2 (Sqeeze Pro?), but you could go to the Sorenson site and find out. If you are going to do a lot of encoding and not just Flash8, it might be better to spend the extra because you will gain not only a great compression suite with all the customizable possibilities that entails, but batching capabilities as well.
Ron Shook
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John,
[John Magee] “The WMV renders I’ve been trying look OK, but end up too large (100mb limit)The Web-streaming forum suggested using H.264, Mp4 in Vegas.”
I think that the web-streaming forum is not correct. Bunch’a FCP folks, apparently. (g) Several things I’ve seen indicate that WMV plays better with Flash, that it presents a better product for Flash re-encoding at the very low bit rates that you can upload to YouTube. And yes, it is Flash8 that YouTube uses. You’re on the right track, just customize the data rate lower. This guy’s stuff looks quite good and he tells you just what he does with Vegas to get there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03p3UlvkAT4
Apparently, although they don’t document it, you can upload Flash8 directly to YouTube and it will be used without re-encoding as long as you stick to the YouTube perameters. These are, I believe, 320×240 video, 22khz, 16bit mono audio, at a total bit rate not much above 200 kbps, definitely not more than 250 kbps. I’m not sure about the audio. It may be 8bit at even less that 22khz. However, WMV may still be the preferred method, even if you have PPro to encode directly to Flash8 with the ON2 codec, because the version of the ON2 codec that comes free with Adobe apps that have Flash export has only CBR, single pass encoding.
To get really good Flash8 exports at the very low bit rates that YouTube uses you need to have 2 pass, VBR encoding to Flash8 and that only comes with the $200 Flix ON2 plugin. I’m not sure if this plugs into Vegas, and if not, and you don’t have Adobe or other stuff that it plugs into, you’d need to get the $250 stand alone version for use with Vegas. The $40 version from Flix is the CBR limited version that comes with Adobe products.
Ron Shook
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Russell,
[Russell Robertson] “Any hints, suggests or advice to best position Vegas for this comparison would be most appreciated!!!”
Perhaps I can add a little to this discussion, even though I use neither at the moment, but will be using Vegas in another month or two. I researched Edius very extensively up until 4 or 5 months ago when I passed on it and have a cohort, one of the most knowledgable in the business, who uses Vegas, FCP, Edius, PPro and Avid. I couldn’t do that, but he’s an expert in virtually all of them.
Edius has pretty much inarguably the best real-time software only engine in the business. It’s a speed editor but it’s not a craft editor, appropriate to news editing and simpler event editing, far more than complex feature editing. Feature editing can be done with Edius, and other compositing software, but there’s no integration except with Boris and not a lot even there, nothing even remotely comparable to the compositing power build into Vegas.
Assuming that you and the Edius editor have relatively comparable computers, he/she will likely have better preview output. It’s likely that you will be able to accomplish the tasks a bit faster and you’ll really shine if any complex compositing is part of the tasks and you can loop a section and perform compositing and filter adjustments in real-time while Vegas plays.
There’s probably no better titler/CG for getting the job done quickly than the Inscriber TitleMotion that plugs into Edius, so even if you go to V8 with the new titler, you’ll be at a speed disadvantage. As I understand it the new titler is closer to a competitor to the text capabilities of Apple Motion than to TitleMotion, i.e., built for flash and animation more than speedy CG.
I could be wrong on this, but there could be a huge reason for you to go to V8 for this demo, particularly if you are asked to print to tape or render to a finished file. Doesn’t version 8 have smart rendering for HDV, so that you can create a finished file without re-rendering any unaffected segments?
In any case, how this turns out will be to a large degree defined by the comparative computers, and the tasks you are asked to perform. If you can control to some degree the tasks you are asked to perform towards the more complex, you are liable to look that much better.
Ron Shook
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Hi Spot and to Rick as well,
[dse/spot] “Not only that, but there are times when the 3.5mm plugs are intentionally wired as a balanced cable, though usually marked as such.”
Hmmm! Learn something everyday! Since audio has been mostly an adjunct to my world and I’ve never run into such things, out of curiousity and a necessity to be prepared with my kit adapters, what kind of gear might I expect to find balanced mini-plug connections on? Don’t wanta get caught with my pants down. (g)
Ron
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Charles,
[Charles] “Thanks your right,”
Well maybe Rick wasn’t completely right, as I don’t think that mini-plugs are ever balanced. The stereo ones are simply 2 channel unbalanced. While you will run into 1/4″ tip/ring/sleeve connections that are either stereo unbalanced or mono balanced, I’ve never run into a balanced 1/8″ mini-plug connection. I suppose it’s possible, but I’ve never encountered it.
Ron Shook