Ron Lindeboom
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[mike harper] “WOW great article. Awhile ago i had to deal with such an idiot. She spent 6 hours trying to pick music!!! All the while i warned her we were getting way, way behind. After we missed slot I had to pass the piece off to another person. I tried to be nice and cut my rate in half for some of the wasted time. BAD IDEA! She bad mouthed me endlessly to the production house and I never worked there again.- (thank god I guess)”
Hi Mike,
This is where I’d use a change order and put on it that six hours of looking for audio is not “customary” under the circumstances and that you are getting them to sign it just for good recordkeeping and to document that the project is starting to go off the rails and you do not wish the responsibility for that. One or two of those and they will get the point.
The documented bread crumb trail would give you a way to protect your good name.
It may piss them off if you give them a change order to sign but under these circumstances, they are almost always going to come out of it blaming you anyway.
Thanks for the feedback, Mike.
Ron Lindeboom
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[lessevolvedman] “Now do australian (c) ;)”
The principles are pretty close and this series is not being done as a substitute for seeing a lawyer.
Maybe you can translate this series into Australian. ;o)
Ron Lindeboom
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[Seth Bloombaum] “If you have to go to court to compel payment, you lost the client relationship a long time ago. This is assuming that you can avoid dealing with pond scum. I’ve only have had that particular problem twice in 25 years, once at an agency and once on my own. In my experience, if you’re dealing with pond scum an enforceable contract doesn’t help very much.”
When I read those words, Seth, I just had to chuckle. As you so clearly said, if you are dealing with pond scum, then not even an enforceable contract is going to do you much good. But as you also remarked, clearly outlining what will and will not be done for how much and when, makes for the kind of fence that fulfills the old adage: “Good fences make good neighbors.”
Nice post, Seth. Thanks for being a part of Creative Cow. It’s an honor to have you here.
Ron Lindeboom
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I would recommend getting the book “Media Law for Producers” by Philip H. Miller that is published by Elsevier/Focal Press. It goes into things quite in-depth.
You can find the book at Amazon.com by clicking here.
It would do you well to read it, come up with your basic contracts, forms, etc., and then take them to a lawyer for their polishing and feedback before you lock it all in.
Best regards,
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In nearly every job that Kathlyn and I do, it is done working with many of the people right here in the Cow who work on these projects. The only local one I can think of which we did 100% in Cambria, was the new “Strawbs: Live at NEARfest 2004” album which we were executive producers of — and even that included a Cow leader as the producer we worked with, Steve Crimmel of our Audio Professionals forum.
We are at work on the new Creative Cow Masters Series line of DVD training products and our art director is in New York City and the last time we were there was long ago and Nick Griffin spent way too much money on dinner for us all — I am still looking down at the result. ;o)
There are many people in the Cow who use Cow members on different projects: Alan Bell, who edited some of Rob Reiner’s movies, told us over dinner at last NAB of some of the projects that he has done using nearly 100% Cow members.
Thanks, Rich, for being a part of the Cow.
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[Andrew Kramer] “Great Article, I know the type. ;)”
Yes, and I apologize for the tenor of our first meeting, Andrew. Sometimes, all it takes is a mirror and a little introspection to learn some things that are quite valuable — maybe not always pleasant, but always valuable.
;o)
Have fun,
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[Rich Rubasch] “Ron, when is your birthday?”
I, like the Mad Hatter, celebrate only unbirthdays — this, as there are just so many more of them and offer so much more potential for having excuses to go to concerts, symphonies, out to eat, join with friends for a night out and whatnot.
For reasons of internet security, Kathlyn and I try to keep our birthdays under wraps. Please do not take that as an offence, as it surely is not intended so — especially not to you, Rich.
Best always,
Ron Lindeboom
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[Andy Stinton] “But then again I have been known to be a wee bit cynical!!”
Nah, you, Andy?#@!? No freakin’ way. ;o)
Boomer
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Please use the “Compression techniques” forum for this question. Thanks.
Ron Lindeboom
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Hi Nick,
I tried growing a beard but it was all salt-and-peppery and when I looked into the mirror, I wondered what happened to the young rocker that was there and who was this rather — shall we say? yes we shall! — rotundulating