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[Oliver Peters] “but only because of the half-hearted implementation that Apple used.”
And I’d say they only implemented it to appease the lamenting “pros” that clearly didn’t and don’t grasp how, in my view, completely nonsensical (and waste of space) it is in the context of how X does things. Seeing that it contradicts Apple’s otherwise so brilliant optimization for small screen in particular. I think it was more of a knee-jerk reaction to the out of control perturbitude of the early days. But I could be wrong.
But I do admit that I’ve put in a request for the old “QuickView” panel. But that’s something completely different from a “Viewer” in that sense and can in fact be emulated via 3rd party solutions to a great degree if needed.
– RK
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[Steve Connor] “They might be more reliable than the random way that FCPX currently holds projects with the arrow keys?”
So “more reliability” (nothing I’ve personally had an issue with) not “change to tabs“. Because not having tabs makes far better, more sensible use of screen real estate. Which is what I’m assuming was exactly Apple reasoning behind those kinds of changes. Because if anything, then FCP’s interface is probably the ONLY one that is even actually useable even on a 13″ MBP because of those (smart imho) choices. Other NLEs… er, have yet to see them get close.
[Steve Connor] “Yes, it’s a useful way to work sometimes”
Well, I’m 100% with Charlie as far as that’s concerned: “Pancakes, Shmancakes […] a technique that is completely unnecessary in FCP X“. For me just another one of those “because that’s how “they” do it and I’m used to doing it” things one hears all the time. Again, apparently without understanding the alternatives — in my book the far superior ones — that X has to offer for the same tasks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwc5iMBs9X4
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “How about tabbed timelines”
In which way are tabs functionally any better than what it has now?
[Oliver Peters] “PPro’s “pancake” timeline layout?”
To what advantage exactly? For what? Things like selects or B-roll timelines and the likes?
In Premiere? Yes, definitely needed. Great feature in the context of Premiere, no doubt.
[Oliver Peters] “re-arranging where things like the inspector appear?”
Where for example? Where in the interface could its functionality and purpose be of greater use? Other than maybe for the one or other one time task, such as changing the library settings? And, I’m assuming, moving it next to the library window just for that would benefit me… how? Again, I don’t see it, other than for mere reasons of “just… because… everyone else does it that way, so it must be right/the best”. But you probably have a more convincing example?
It certainly could be taller though, yes.
[Oliver Peters] “when you have two viewers up”
Something I have had a full one time since its existence, as every other X editor I know. So I couldn’t comment. But there are simple shortcuts and the tab key.
– RK
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[Steve Connor] “Just being able to save a custom workspace would be just fantastic”
Like I said, I agree.
– RK
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Okay, I’ll give you the timeline. So if they added that option… what else? What important interface magic would you perform other than that, that FCP is in such need of IYHO? 🙂 A a tilde key??
– RK
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[Steve Connor] “Premiere has a feature where if you hit the “tilde” key then that panel goes full screen”
Sorry if I have no idea which area of FCP’s interface I could possibly ever want full screen and have it make any practical sense whatsoever. Other than the Event window or the viewer… both of which are expandable to full screen. The viewer either way and the Event/Media window when using two screens, which I do. But then having that (and various other areas) expand full screen without seeing the viewer seems pretty nonsensical anyway. Other than maybe for the “because… I want to!” fraction. 😀
I personally find PPro’s interface to be a painfully convoluted mess, getting worse with each version. AE is getting there, too. PS has already been there a very long time. Just downright arcane, cobbled together tab-panel-buttoned hell. In which case I can very much understand why you would need that functionality, yes.
– RK
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[Scott Witthaus] “You getting all this Michael? Bueller? Bueller?”
Good question. After 20+ responses and not a word from the OP, you really have to question his true motivation. Very trollish.
– RK
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[Dean Neal] “it needs more freedom of layout in the Interface”
I’m curious… what would your improved interface look like? What would be where? Because outside of maybe the scopes being in the same window as the viewer, I can’t think of a single thing I would change that would be better than the way it is with the various shortcuts and fly in/out palettes etc. Maybe savable workspaces. But other than that…
[Dean Neal] “tends to chew memory and slow down over prolonged use”
Get that with PPro CC aaaaaaaall the time as well. Not an FCP specific issue by any measure, believe you me. Though X is far more performant than PPro on so many other levels anyway. Starting with just basics such as starting up the app itself. If I get slow down I simply restart X and am back in business literally with seconds. PPro? Not even close.
[Dean Neal] “needs to get serious about multi-user environments”
I use X in a 12 seat edit suite very happily. What does more “serious” mean? Obviously Apple isn’t going to just la-dee-da stick an ISIS grade collaboration environment onto of X, so what exactly are you expecting that you can’t get via 3rd parties already if needed?
– RK
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Since he doesn’t even know the basics of how it works, talking about the details of how it works is probably not the best way of convincing him at this point ;-)”
Fair point I guess. But then I personally don’t see what is in fact SO horribly different about X outside of its, IMHO, far superior organizational tools. Overall, whether you’ve actually used it or not, I think there is a lot to be said for it, that anyone that has ever edited with anything before could easily understand in principle. Even if they can’t actually recreate whatever it is on their own off the bat.
[Michael Paul] “There must be a reason why people use it and what’s great about it”
Again, I recommend the “In Action” pages. There is a lot and often very different things listed in each story that people uniquely love about X. I for one love its SPEED first and foremost. I’ve been editing for nearly 25 years and have never gotten from A (ingest) to B (export) so quickly and effortlessly. And yes, that is something you can really only understand and recreate with respective TRAINING and subsequent experience. X is NOT an NLE that you can just jump into when you are “handicapped” by previous NLE experience. Which, no, is not a BAD thing. Unless of course “different” is a bad thing for you in general. In which case… stick with what you have.
FIRST go to https://training.izzyvideo.com/courses/final-cut-pro-x-tutorial or even better https://www.rippletraining.com/categories/final-cut-pro/ , actually LEARN it, then come back and tell us what you think.
– RK
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I won’t go into the details of what I love…”
But isn’t that what he’s asking? 😉
– RK
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