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[Oliver Peters] “Clearly they designed X for skimming and broke scrubbing in the process.”
Or they simply recognized that there is absolutely nothing about scrubbing that trumps skimming.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “I understand, but it isn’t really the same thing.”
So how is just a plain ol’ import of a PDF (as described) not enough?
But then, I much prefer the ol’ analog paper version anyway, since that is far more flexible in terms of corrections etc. …
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “I often find myself turning it off when dealing with a client-involved session.”
Having to hit that one key (S) must really throw everyone for a loop!! Horrible burden.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It has a tremendous amount of switches and buttons”
Check out my other post for some exact (and frightening) numbers. PPro competes heavily with MS Word in terms of “GUI design” (hard to even use the term in that context).
[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t know why I have to feel like I am launching Saturn 5 to get a high res mp4 out of Pr.”
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I know, right?Never mind that setting a project up for the first time is a very close second (Saturn 4?) in terms of “usability” or “user-friendliness”. Boggles the mind what hoops one (still!!) has to jump through before even so much as a single frame has been edited! I guess that’s “pro”? Confuse the user with THE most irrelevant options that a screen-sized window will allow… if he still gets something usable out the other end, he MUST be good (i.e. “pro”)! ????
– RK
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[David Roth Weiss] “even if the renders were actually ten times faster”
I’m sorry… if? Which part of the tests are you not clear on? Let us help.
[Steve Connor] “Would love to see someone do a video covering the whole edit process on both systems.”
One of my personal favorites with one ever reoccurring task in “the whole editing process”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRZgVZd9UmQ
Obviously exchanging FCP 7 with PPRo would yield the exact same result. Check the time and do the math… there are a plethora of other examples.
And btw: rendering is far from just done on export, sorry. The example of export is merely the easiest to quantify in a comparison of this kind.
– RK
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Just point X at the top level of the new drive (or folder) and hit “choose”. In Pr, I have to manually point at every folder. And for whatever reason, I have to relink the PSD files every time I start the program.”
My exact same experience (with both) as well. It’s maddening. I have no idea how, by my experience, PPro’s relinking could be considered superior or better by any stretch.
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “not like Color Finale’s floating window that just don’t have a comfortable place to live within the UI without being in the way of something.”
Only that for CFP nothing needs to resize, therefore I’m not losing any space for anything else that I might need just as much. So it’s a give and take no matter what. Me preferring the latter either way. Again, horses for courses.
And sorry, but PDFs do import with any and all pages into FCP. With one page per frame. View it side by side with the Event Viewer window if you must.
– RK
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Hilarious. My post was flagged and moderated because of the word “h o m i n e m”… ?! (and, of course, just did it again. Doh! ????)
What. The. … ????????♂️
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To answer the actual question: yeah, I wouldn’t mind if there were a similar API for X. Do I think it’s somehow the key feature that tips the scale for any one production company or facility to adopt X or not. Er… no. Not even. And I think that Apple not being interested in others altering their UI design could be one reason, but also that some of those integrations have been known to contribute to massive instability, especially after an update on either side (I’m not naming names). That’s in fact roughly what I heard from someone at Apple on the subject. So for most it may well be a small price to pay. But then they may also have just been waiting until they got the complete groundwork done (in the form of the 10.3) to take that step and the subject may even be at the top of the list. Who knows?
[Jeff Markgraf] “Premiere Pro has a lousy GUI. Crowded, fiddly, ugly, not at all pleasant to use on a daily basis.”
+1.
If only you could scale the ???????? to 200pt. 😛
As I like to say… “If hell had tabs and buttons.”[Jeremy Garchow] “It is hard to predict and thrives on chaos. “
No kiddin’. It’s as if every possible function has either it’s own tab, button or 50 level pop-up menu. Or all of the above (in most cases). There is no comprehensible logic to why something is in a right-click (or not), something else only in a (sub sub sub) menu, and the other thing only in a tab or pop-up imho. Easily demonstrated by e.g. there being a mere 12 items in the FCP Windows menu, a whopping 38 in PPro. A right-click on a clip in the timeline? Enjoy 14 items in the pop-up in X and, believe it or not, FOURTY-TWO for the same clip in PPr (which just barely fits onto my Retina screen btw!). Mind you, that’s not even counting the five additional fly-out menus in PPro, of which just one has another 10 items! ????
[Jeremy Garchow] “What it comes down to, is that I don’t prefer it. It is unnecessarily clunky. It tries to do too much with a bunch of add on features in weird places.”
Exactly. Endlessly riddled with button over butten, icon over icon, tab over tab. Even if you open a project in FCP X where someone left it set a custom workspace, there’s absolutely no way that you’re going to wonder where anything is or have to reset the GUI to find out. Never mind the endless buttons and icons riddled all across the interface that literally no one ever uses. In a default layout with one clip in the timeline I counted 104 different buttons. Let me spell that: ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR. But then I’m not using the most recent version, so there are most likely even more by now. Just in the canvas window alone it’s a 5:1 ratio in transport controls.
Oh, and in PPro I’m not even counting TABS, but am in X! (i.e. “Browsers“)
But hey, don’t worry, you can add even more of everything if you want in PPro! ???????? X’s GUI elements on the other hand have gotten progressively LESS with each version. Go figger.
Look at AE. For each new tracker there’s a completely different way of using it and a completely different place it’s been put. So I guess it’s “pro” to not consolidate features and functions that go together in a comprehensive way, but rather just introduce yet another tab, menu and pop-up? ????
So like I said, I’d say your feeling on the matter is painfully demonstrable. And anyone that want’s to claim that X “now looks like PPro” outside of maybe the color, clearly has no clue what they’re talking about and is running on the same sad little track as every foam at-the-mouth “iMovie Pro!” screamer imho.
Let me guess, it’s because X isn’t as super powerful as PPro and simply lacking the functionality to justify so many buttontabflyoutmenurightclicks? ????
Yeah. That. Or maybe Adobe is just interested in winning the feature list race, not squashing age old bugs as I’ve been reading and hearing, and simply doesn’t give a rat’s backend about comprehensive GUI design and usability while they’re at it? I dunno.
But if you actually prefer that, great. Horses for courses as they say. I know I don’t and am 100% with Jeremy as far as that’s concerned.
– RK
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You can’t. As much as some would love for it to be possible. ????
– RK
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