Rick Mac
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[lunchmoney] “I’m at a loss. Do you know what the next process of elimination step would be?”
I’m at a loss as well. It seems to make no sense. Your rendered mpeg file looks the same as your source footage within Vegas timeline, but outside of Vegas it does not.
I’m stumped. Thought we would find our answer within the authoring phase. But that did not pan out.Sorry I could not help you solve this.
Regards, Rick.
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Lunchbox,
I looked at the mpegs and jpg that you posted and as you say there is a diiference in what I would call chroma saturation which is perhaps caused by an increase in contrast.
Since your rendered mpeg file looks the same as your source video when it is pulled back into Vegas, that tells me that the mpeg encoder is giving you a accurate mpeg render. I have got to then ask myself what is happening in DVD Architect.
I would be curious to have you author a small test with another authoring program maybe Nero or such. If that gives you an accurate playout then we know our problem is within DVD Architect.
I must admit this one has me a bit baffled. I have not run into this myself. In fact I have used Vegas and Architect now for about 5 years and have never seen this happen. I’m not saying you don’t have a problem here, I’m just saying I have no ready answer for you other than to go thru the process of elimination my dear Watson.
How about trying an author in another app and let us know what happens.
Regards, Rick.
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Lunchmoney,
Forgive me, a few more questions.
1) Your DV playback while editing is good? Contrast looks correct While editing?
2) You then render from the timeline your mpeg file. Does the contrast still look correct pulling the rendered mpeg file back onto Vegas timeline?
3) When you pull the mpeg file into DVD Architect, does DVD Architect tell you that it needs to recompress the mpeg file?
Don’t give up, we will do our best to find the answer.
Just to let you know, I edit DV and I use DVD Architect to author DVD’s and my video looks the same throughout the entire process. So this is not normal for Vegas.
What we may do is have you post a few seconds of your DVD Architect project and try a burn from here. I will try to get a hold of Edward (JetitDV)for what we would need you to post.
Edward, If you see this perhaps you could tell him what to post so we can experiment with it.Regards, Rick.
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What render template settings are you using?
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For the most part not to many gotchas.
Here is some things to be aware of:
If you open a version 4 project in version 7 and save in
version 7, you can no longer open it in version 4.
No biggie here, just use version 7.Now this one will affect you if you have purchased plugins for version 4. This could be somthing like Excalibur, Ultimate S, Radiance, SpiceMaster etc. Some of them will work while others will have to be updated.
As a guy who started on Version 3, I can tell you that you will love version 7 compared to 4.
One last thought, Version 8 Pro is about to come out, and sounds like it will be a really cool version. It will not be a free upgrade but make sure that where you purchase 7 from will allow you to upgrade to 8 Pro with little to no cost.
Regards, Rick.
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OK, Here is were you find the tools you need in Audition 1.5
You will apply two filters, The first is a soft compressor.
The second is a peak limiter.Effects/Amplitude – Dynamics Processing ( classic softknee ) preset. Then apply a second instance of the Dynamics Processing filter ( Limit Hard -3 or -6 ) The -6 is more aggressive than -3. Try -3 first, if it still needs to be rained in a bit try -6.
Now, If you are using Audition 2, you will have better processors (filters) that come with the program. The drawback of the 1.5 stock filters is the lack of metering feedback to see just how much you are compressing/Limiting and effecting the signal.
Since Audition 1.5 does support VST Plugins, there is a lot of free stuff out there that you can download that would give you that meter feedback. Here is link to some to start your search if you want to persue it.
As I said if you have Audition 2, you have really good plugins there that will give you metering.
Lastly, as an guys that uses plugins on a professional level a lot, if you really want a great set of pro-plugins I would suggest one of the Waves Bundles. Ozone is also great, but the interface is a bit confusing for the newbee, but a lot of bang for the buck.
Regards Sir, and happy processing.
Rick Mac
Director of Audio Production
TCT Network – Directv 377 -
Audition has the tools built in that you need.
I will explain in general terms at this time (since it is late). Tomorrow I will chesk back and post a more detailed explaination.Basically you apply a compressor (for general leveling),
and a peak limiter to catch the really fast loud stuff.As I said before, Audition has all the tools you need.
More details to come.
Regards, Rick.
Rick Mac
Director of Audio Production
TCT Network – Directv 377 -
Sounds like fun.
First thing to do is aquire the best audio during recording.
I bet you are using omni-directional Lav’s on your talent.
Invest in some good quality directional lav’s. This will give you more direct sound for both guys right away. Be careful with how much you compress things. If you compress to much you will lose your directness and start sounding boomie and
non-direct. Apply light compression no ratio higher than 4:1 and gain reduce about 2-4 db on the louder talking. It is better to write volume envelopes than to overcompress. Also apply a peak limiter to the main output to catch that stuff that really kicks the meters. You only want to catch the peaks. In your situation over compession and over limiting can kill your direct sound.
The best thing you can do for yourself is to buy
some good directional lavs.Regards, Rick.
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Gordon,
Glad to hear you have a working solution.
I guess you posted your solution while I was
following up on your previous post.Sounds like a good solution. In fact I am going to
print it out and keep it handy. Sounds like a very good
solution.Regards, and happy editing.
Rick