Omar Wanis
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Thanks!
About the 7700k, i stated that it has 4.2 GHz frequency because it says so on the Intel website.My Complete Build goes like this:
– Motherboard: Z H370 Gaming 3 Wifi
– CPU: Intel Core i7-8700
– RAM: 16GB x 2 Crucial 2400
– GPU: GTX 1070 Ti 8GB
– Storage: AData Sii 480 GB M.2 SSD && 1 TB Seagate 7200 HDD
– Cooler: Hyper 212 Turbo
– Power Supply: BitFenix 650W Gold
– Case: Cooler HAF 912
– Screen: Asus 27” 1PS
– OS: Windows 10 64-bitI know there might be better options, but i hit the top of my budget and i can’t go further so i need to compromise a bit, and again my main focus is mainly After Effects, a bit of C4D, a bit of Photoshop and Premiere Pro.
Note: I asked the shop if there are any drawbacks to this build, compatibility issues, stuff that won’t fit in or something like that, they told me it’s completely fine and the Motherboard is still usable if i need to add more RAM or upgrade CPU or GPU. Hope They are right and I’m not screwed ????
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Hey guys, thanks to you, i have assembled a fine build.
I just have 1 last question regarding the Processor, i was originally aiming for the i7-8700k as it has a good base frequency 3.7 GHz and turbo 4.7 GHz.
But i might not find it here, and i can’t wait to get it online, so as a replacement, i had 2 options, either i7-8700 (3.2 GHz up to 4.6 GHz) and i7-7700k (4.2 GHz up to 4.5 GHz)I like the base frequency of the i7-7700k a lot, but it has only 4 cores, and other memory and cache limitations i think.
While the i7-8700 is at 3.2 GHz, the turbo will do just fine getting it up to 4.6 GHz.My question is, when do i usually benefit from those turbo boosts? I know that the CPU takes away some power from other cores and powers 1 core to get enhanced single-threaded performance, but when does it happen? If I open After Effects, Photoshop, Premiere and C4D for example, does that mean the PC is obliged to use more cores to empower all of these and can’t sacrifice those powers and i’ll get down to 3.2 GHz performance for After Effects? Do i need to just open After Effects alone to gain that enhanced performance?
Basically i know that the microprocessors these days function in multi-core fashion by nature even in smaller scales like u guys explained, but where does it draw the line between the 3.2 GHz and the 4.6 GHz because the difference is huge.
Thank you guys!
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I understand, thank you all very much for taking time and explaining all these things to me, very much appreciated!
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Yes thank you sir! That’s what i have been trying to understand.
I read the whole Puget Systems article and seen other videos/forums on the matter before i posted here, and they all seemed to agree that AE works better on a high frequency lower core counts CPU and everyone is listing the i7-8700k as a DeFacto in almost every build i have seen.They never explained the multithreading to me like u guys did, thank you for that, but they all plainly said AE is a single-threaded software so don’t waste money on more cores that u are not gonna get much use out of (unless u go for Render Garden).
Also they all recommended not going for a very high end GPU (unless i have the money for it), and better save the extra cache for CPU, RAM and even SSDs.
So when i had my build in mind, i wanted to make sure evth was correct, every piece played nicely with the others and if there will be misplaced cach on pieces of hardware that i could have replaced with other better stuff.Also i was asking about workstations because computer engineers in my country are pretty much dumb, they dun understand half of what u guys said and i won’t be able to get any good recommendations out of any of them really so i need a detailed easy thing to build yet worth its money because 2000$ in here is worth 40k of our currency and that’s a lot! So i can’t tolerate making mistakes in this one really ????
Thank you guys!
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How’s AE multithreaded? Everywhere i see people talk on it being single threaded software. Is it multithreaded in one task like rendering or previewing? Or doing multiple tasks at the same time? And is it effective as multi-threading in 3D softwares like Houdini, or it has many limitations?
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Okay i got it, just a last couple of questions:
1- I need 2 M2 SSDs right? one for the OS, the other for the Disk Cache and maybe large files (I think 256 GB each is enough).
2- Do i need a swap drive? Aren’t those for helping the RAM when it’s out of memory?
3- About the Raid 0 backup thing, i need to continuously copy all my done work to the HDD so i empty more space for the SSDs for later projects, so i think that won’t be a problem right?
4- I’m always afraid of compatibility issues, even if i get a motherboard that would fit nice with all the chips i got, I always hear a MAC PC outperforms a Windows PC because of compatibility within its parts, alongside other stuff.
So aren’t there parts that would play nicer with other parts? Or that’s not the case?Sorry if i lack some basic knowledge, I’m a beginner.
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Wow that was a detailed answer, thank you!
A couple of things though:1- Forgot to mention that my budget is around 2000 $, so i’d have to cut down on some specs, i think starting with the GPU since it’s the least important part as far as i know (given i don’t do too much Ray-tracing).
2- I see that combining the 32 threads with Render Garden can be effective, but if i don’t get Render Garden, i won’t be using those threads, plus i have seen all builds recommend the i7-8700k, what do u think?
3- I’m getting this PC for studies and some freelancing because i have a daytime job and i use C4D only so few times, so 32 GB of RAM i think will get me through since RAM prices are sky rocketing.
4- Do i need M2 SSD? or i can go with the normal one?