[Oliver Peters]

[Jonathan Lazaris] “the images demonstrate the differences that each effect has on increasing the input levels (blacks/shadows)”

That’s why I was confused, because your first post expressed concern about how super-whites were handled, not shadows.

[Jonathan Lazaris] “they’re not even clipped to begin with”

Odd. The white t-shot looks extremely clipped in every image on a couple of different displays. At least that’s what I’m seeing.

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[Oliver Peters]

No offense, but what are these images supposed to be showing? They all look equally bad with a very clipped white t-shirt. I’m not sure this explains anything.

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[Oliver Peters]

I’m curious. More accurate than the Lumetri curves in what way? Curves, in general, are a rather destructive method for color correction, since they can introduce banding rather quickly. The danger in using older filters like this is that they are no longer supported by Adobe’s development. Therefore, there’s no guarantee that you won’t see odd results after some future update. But I’m glad you found something that works for you.

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[Oliver Peters]

The adjust levels filter is a legacy filter that may no longer be processing the video in the best manner. Different filters work differently in the video pipeline. For color correction use the Lumetri color controls and adjust where you get the best results. Generally you should turn off “clamping” in the scopes to see full range. Then apply an adjustment layer on the topmost track and apply a broadcast limiter effect to that adjustment layer. You can set it to clip at 100 or 103.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/color-workflows.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/how-to/lumetri-color-overview.html
https://youtu.be/9BknsPGyFeE

Also, what timeline preset are you using? Some of these have been known to affect levels. I typically start with a modified version of one of the ARRI sequence presets.

Hope that helps.

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[Oliver Peters]

One point you may have missed in the Lunar link is that they are using Resolve for editing. Granted, it’s probably more for assembly and finishing, but still an interesting side note.

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[Oliver Peters]

You are correct. I missed that part.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Andrew Kimery] “Assuming they don’t already have a display *and* they like/want the built-in display that comes with the iMac Pro.”

I think you missed the context. Eric was talking about getting the print folks to switch from iMacs to Mac Pros.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Eric Santiago] “Anyone in print here that has jumped into the newer MPs?”

But print requires a good display, which adds more cost to the Mac Pros even with non-Apple displays. OTOH, some of the photo bloggers seem pretty jazzed about how quickly the Mac Pros chew into raw photos. So it will likely depend on what type of print work is involved.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Bob Zelin] “What I currently find “entertaining” is the YouTube influencer’s videos. Everyone has a loaded 2019 Mac Pro, with TWO of the new Apple monitors (and 2 stands) – and they are shooting their videos with a phone. So there is no way that these people actually purchased those expensive systems. It’s a commercial. An “influencers” commercial.”

Obviously the majority of these are loaner machines from Apple. Unfortunately not all of these influencers are doing what they are supposed to do, which is clearly identify that fact.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Andrew Kimery] “I’m taking a complete stab in the dark here, but I’d guess most people that are looking to $5,000+ on a desktop system would rather buy a Mac Pro than an all-in-one iMac Pro.”

I’m not so sure about that, considering that you still have to add a display to the Mac Pro. Plus many people will opt for the simplicity and lower power demands of the iMac Pro. I think there will continue to be room for both. If anything, there might not be a need for a high-end iMac. Or maybe the high-end iMac and iMac Pro get merged in the product line.

OTOH, Apple can’t seem to figure out how to properly position the iPad Pro vs MacBook (now gone) vs MacBook Air vs 13″ MacBook Pro.

– Oliver

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