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ProRes is absolutely supported. Nothing deprecated about that. DNxHR will be, but isn’t yet.
It’s an OS-level issue, not specifically FCPX or any other app. Apple’s ProApps and Quicktime Player depend on video libraries supplied in the OS. Beyond the standard codecs installed, additional “pro” codecs can be installed through a Pro Formats Update, generally associated with FCPX.
A codec that is deprecated because it uses 32-bit libraries will still work in the future, if:
a) Apple supplies new 64-bit library components for it. In that case, all apps that use these libraries can read/write those codecs, including FCPX. Or,
b) The third-party company that uses these codecs creates their own internal libraries and doesn’t on OS-level components, in order to read/write those files. In that case, those third-party apps can read/write the files, but Apple apps won’t necessarily be able to.
– Oliver
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[Eric Santiago] “I wonder if he’s referring to the older QT codecs.”
I think anything that’s on Apple’s supported list will work.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209000
Some, like DNxHR, don’t work yet within QT or FCPX, but do work within an app that supplies its own 64-bit library files (Avid, BMD, Adobe, etc). Of course, ProRes Raw or BMD Raw support is still evolving.
– Oliver
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[Robert Withers] “What’s the deal with “vintage” media files?”
What do you mean?
– Oliver
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[Tony West] “I see Apple pushed a bit for X to be used.”
I think you may be making a connection where none exists. Remember, the deal with Apple happened later – after the choice of which NLE to use was already made. In fact, the deal with Apple caused them to alter delivery/mastering specs at the end of the line. Joel had been hanging onto FCP7 until that point anyway, so if it hadn’t been FCPX, it would have been FCP7.
– Oliver
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Just to be clear. Adobe has cancelled its own Summit event. This is not NAB. As of today at least, they still appear to be exhibiting there.
– Oliver
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[Jeremy Garchow] “This isn’t happening in FCPX. But “soon” Avid codecs will be a part of the codecs that Apple officially makes available to the OS.”
Well, the codecs aren’t the issue. It’s actually the library dependencies that the player framework requires in order to play third-party codecs. I’m not sure whether that’s being developed by Avid (or any other developer) or the QuickTime team itself. Apple has always had the codecs and I don’t think the codecs themselves changed with the move to 64-bit. Only the library components.
Although I’m on Mojave, I no longer have any native 32-bit apps on this system. Of course, there are probably still 32-bit library components for the OS. I can open these files in any other non-Apple application. For example, Switch or VLC did not create their own library components to open files.
But the reason I said it was unrelated was not so much that FCPX can’t open these files (although I wish it did) – it’s that it incorrectly identified these files as audio-only, without any sort of error warning for an “unsupported format” or something like that. Same with QT.
– Oliver
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[Mark Suszko] “I agree that this situation will provide a stimulus to development of remote editing hardware and software as well as changes in production practices. But it’s only an acceleration of an existing trend.”
I’m not sure I would make that extrapolation.
– Oliver
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Avid Media Composer isn’t totally sanctioned for Catalina quite yet and is now in Public Beta and “Coming Soon”.”
Just to be clear, that’s currently in testing. When MC2020 is released there will be some missing components, which will be replaced by equivalents in subsequent versions. Avid has the additional challenge of trying to be forwards and backwards compatible – something other companies simply choose not to deal with. In any case, it makes a change to Catalina especially tough.
But that is all unrelated to this issue.
– Oliver
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I agree that much of the product info is available online. But, “community” is a reason for many to attend shows like this. Seeing old friends or meeting new friends in person out of folks you’ve only known through online communications. Side events like Avid Connect, Faster Together Stage, Post Production World, etc. Remember that the exhibits are only a portion of the overall NAB Convention and that if you are an actual NAB member, then there are numerous meetings and sessions in addition to the exhibit floors.
Nevertheless, there is one thing that you don’t get from online info, except the boiled down perspective of various writers, pundits, pontificators, etc. That’s the “walking around” impression you get from seeing the booths. That’s where you spot trends. For example, this year it may be interesting and telling to see how many vendors use the new Mac Pro or the XDR display as part of their demos. In years past, it’s been interesting to see how many and who used FCPX on their stands and why.
Then there’s the discovery of new up-and-comers in the so-called “pipe and drape” sections in the backs of the halls. These are the ones who won’t get press. NAB is often a make-it-or-break-it showing for their company. Avid, EditShare, and many others started there.
So I do think shows like NAB serve a value for people in our industry. If I don’t go this year (TBD), I will certainly miss it.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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According to the support doc, DNx is not supported (yet):
https://support.apple.com/guide/final-cut-pro/supported-media-formats-ver2833f855/mac
I do have the Avid codec packs installed, so it’s not that. The odd part is that neither QT nor FCPX flags it as an unsupported codec or tries to convert it. These files are simply opened as audio.
– Oliver
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