[Oliver Peters]

[Tom Sefton] “it really shouldn’t be struggling with a single layer of footage at 2K resolution to playback.”

No problem with Premiere either. I work with 4K ProRes on my mid-2014 MBP in Premiere without issue. Although 4K is a bit dependent on the drive in that case. 1080 or 2K, no problem at all.

I wonder if you are having a drive performance/optimization/cache issue? Is this on shared storage? If so, what sort of network? It could also be Catalina related. Just speculating, since I have thus far avoided Catalina.

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[Oliver Peters]

If everyone can sing/play to a guide track, then you can sync the iso recordings up. Maybe playing in an ear bud or something like that.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Tom Sefton] “Skim your play head around the timeline in premiere – it sticks to random sections like (molasses) and when you hit space bar it thinks. Not for long, but long enough for you to believe that something is happening….”

This is likely based on codec or maybe you haven’t let it complete the building of cache files before starting. But I see these same issues with FCPX.

[Tom Sefton] “Just as a test I thought I’d sling the same footage at premiere that we are working on in fcpx. Multiple layers of 4/6K 60p ProRes 4444 footage with 2 colour adjustment layers on each, masks etc.. That….was hilarious.”

A completely unfair comparison, because FCPX can take advantage of the Afterburner card and Premiere doesn’t yet. Not the normal use case for someone with an older Mac Pro, iMac, or iMac Pro.

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[Oliver Peters]

[Tom Sefton] “Gahhhhhh you can’t be serious.”

I’m absolutely serious. There are plenty of ways to make comparisons that skew one way or the other. There are certainly cases where I feel FCPX is a better fit. But it’s not the universal solution for me.

I have two main issues with FCPX. The UI is “sticky” – meaning every action – to click on something – takes a split second longer that in Premiere, where it’s largely instant. Relinking is the second. I’ve taken home media from archive drives to WFH. The FCPX Library linking is based on the shared storage locations at the office. I have had to move assets from multiple drives onto a single RAID, so paths are completely a mess. Relinking in FCPX is nearly impossible. Premiere – I can point to the new locations and I’m good to go.

I don’t work with a new Mac Pro. I don’t have enough media in any given project that would benefit from an Afterburner card. So that’s a non-issue for me and will be for a while to come.

Audio mixing on complex jobs in FCPX? A complete mess with multiple compounds, because there is no track-based mixer or roles-based mixer. Can you do it? Sure. But not in a way that’s conducive to any normal way of mixing. For example, change a filter on a clip, which is buried inside a compound with more effects on the role – all while still listening to the effect through a compressor on the master output? Easy in Premiere with track, submaster, and master tracks/buses. Not possible in FCPX.

[Tom Sefton] “I know it’s another string to your bow as an editor, but how has premiere seemingly got worse than resolve?”

I didn’t say that it was. But in terms of the editor UI – I feel Premiere is a better editor. I’m also not fond of the database method for project files used by Resolve. Trimming is the biggest issue for me in Resolve and J-cut/L-cut trimming with embedded audio isn’t possible yet in the cut page.

– Oliver

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[Oliver Peters]

Sigh ☺ You guys are sooooo funny. I regularly bounce between the apps and really don’t see any clear advantage to X over PPro. Sure, it skims nicely and handles media well. But Premiere’s media handling is pretty good these days. Maybe, as Apple would say, you are just holding it wrong ☺

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[Jeremy Garchow] “When do we want it?
Now-ish!”

Yesterday! Actually last week, to be precise ☺

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All of this FCPX on iPad Pro speculation is interesting, but it doesn’t pay the bills for the rest of us. Given our WFH situations, all I want today from FCPX is flexible media relinking that’s at least on par with everyone else. Not LAST in the pack.

I’ve got media spread all over multiple archive drives from our shared storage. I have to consolidate the files to a common RAID to make revisions and that means I have to relink. Piece of cake with Premiere Pro. With FCPX it just sits there in its “searching” mode. Just not a viable solution.

Apple took Avid’s restrictive managed media approach and simply made it worse. Rant over.

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[Joe Marler] “Oliver, if you use the Vega 56 it would be interesting if”

I decided to go a different route. That was mainly a “what if” question for various options to consider. Thanks.

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[Oliver Peters]

Thanks.

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[Oliver Peters]

I think we have to take the ARM stories with a grain of salt. While it may make sense for a replacement for the basic MacBook, these chips aren’t up to the task of the heavy lifting handled by Apple’s current crop of Core i7, i9, and Xeon CPU. Maybe in a few years, but not around the corner. So does it make sense to run a bifurcated approach with macOS?

– Oliver

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