Nicholas Rivero
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Bob,
ProPresenter is not meant to be a media server by any means; it is presentation software.
Though again, as for their video engine software, ProVideo Player, it does have MIDI support and DMX is in the works. For doing simple multiscreen video playback, as it seems this thread was inquring of, PVP can do multiples of screens realtively easy and very cost effecitve in comparison to any Catalyst, Maxedia, Hippo, Wings, Watchout, or the Pandoras out there.
https://www.renewedvision.com/pvp.php
//nick
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Bob,
Renewed Vision produces two seperate programs: ProPresenter and ProVideo Player. ProPresenter is their lyric/presentation software which does support native pixel resolutions. The current version, 3.2.5 I believe, supports whatever output resolution you tell it. You can then tell the program to scale/stretch to fit or preserve aspect ratio to your desired output resolution. The software defaultly support up to 800×600 but with an extended resolution module, which I am using, you can set your ouput to whatever you choose. In this case, you could set ProPresenter to do a 3500×1050 output which could be scaled or split out to a Matrox Triple Head2Go perhaps (I am sitting in front of ProPresenter and just easily set it to that resolution).
ProVideo Player, on the other hand, you can easily do this 3 screen video wall; it is a dedicated video playback engine. You run a node version for each projector and then a master to control it and it can do the playback of of this 3500×1050 content easily just as I am. We have a wall of 3x 1280×720 projectors each connected to a Mac Mini each playing back custom created 720 content. You can find some information about ProVideo Player here: https://www.renewedvision.com/pvp.php//nick
//nick
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Bob,
Renewed Vision produces two seperate programs: ProPresenter and ProVideo Player. ProPresenter is their lyric/presentation software which does support native pixel resolutions. The current version, 3.2.5 I believe, supports whatever output resolution you tell it. You can then tell the program to scale/stretch to fit or preserve aspect ratio to your desired output resolution. The software defaultly support up to 800×600 but with an extended resolution module, which I am using, you can set your ouput to whatever you choose. In this case, you could set ProPresenter to do a 3500×1050 output which could be scaled or split out to a Matrox Triple Head2Go perhaps (I am sitting in front of ProPresenter and just easily set it to that resolution).
ProVideo Player, on the other hand, you can easily do this 3 screen video wall; it is a dedicated video playback engine. You run a node version for each projector and then a master to control it and it can do the playback of of this 3500×1050 content easily just as I am. We have a wall of 3x 1280×720 projectors each connected to a Mac Mini each playing back custom created 720 content. You can find some information about ProVideo Player here: https://www.renewedvision.com/pvp.php//nick
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It’s not real time by any means but we have been working fine at quarter res and doing ram previews between an 1/8 res and 1/4 res; obviously with no motion blur or frame blending, just basic enough that we can build camera moves, looks, the large scale things. Our tour consists of about 4 hours worth of content. The longest pieces are just under 10 minutes and range down to about 30 seconds.
The most complex piece we built was a 3D hallway in which the camera flies through some Trapcode Particular clouds.
It’s not ideal but it is possible.
//nick
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My company is about to go on a spring tour and our set consists of a 7’x36′ wall with a resolution of 720×3840.
We decided to opt out of doing an edged blended wall because we own 7’x12′ DaLite surfaces so we built our 7’x36′ wall using three screens butted up against each other.
Though we have been building the content in AE at native res with little to no issues. I’m working on a 17″ macbook pro and build everything in quarter res then then do sample renders on a Mac Pro at work.
We render our content out as 720×3840 from AE and then use compressor to render it down into 3 seperate 720×1280/H264 compressed chunks (stage left, center, and stage right).
At the show we are playing back our content from three seperate mac minis using Renewed Visions ProVideo Player software (www.renewedvision.com). So each mac mini plays back it’s respective H264 piece.
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Hey there,
I have been doing just this for some tradeshows that our company has been doing lately.
We have 5 Panasonic 42″ Plasmas each with a MacMini strapped to the back of them running Renewed Visions ProVideo player. They are networked together via an airport extreme and sit across a 20’x30′ floor space.
Each display plays 45 sec informational pieces for aprox 3 mins and then all displays play a video of some sort that is in sync across all 5 displays simultaneously.
We bought our MacMinis off of the shelf about a month ago. They are just the Core2 2.0 ghz/1 gig ram. They were $800/mac and the software was $500/copy.
We encoded all of our content using Compressor’s “HD-DVD” settings, basically. It is a 1280×720 frame at 10.3 mbps. It plays great and looks fine because we are go ing DVI into the displays.
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I would definitely have to say go with ProPresenter. Our company has been using it for months now and it is by far a great presentation product. It is solid and stable and very clean, simple, and intutive to use. If your on an Intel iMac or Mac Pro it runs great. We’ve researched every program out there on the market and this is by far the best there is in my opinion.
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I would agree with Bob on the qLab idea. I read on Figure 53s site about how a guy synced multiple rooms of audio in perfect sync with qLabs “wall clock trigger” in which it reads the Mac’s system time clock (which can be atomically synced) to play mutiple machines in perfect sync by telling them to all start playing at a certain time. I think that you might need the $20 pro-control upgrade to do this though.
You could also do the Midi Show Control sync with qLab but I believe that it would set you back $150/node for the pro-midi license, I believe.
I would also say that ProVideo Player by Renewed vision would do the same thing but would set you back $500/node which I’m guessing is above your price range but alows much more playback control and also offers features like tiling and grid/collage mapping (www.renewedvision.com). -
Nicholas Rivero
October 30, 2007 at 2:03 am in reply to: Playback of visual content.. best solution?Check out ProVideo Player. It’s a Mac based video playback program. It sits at $1000 a master copy which runs on secondary computer displays, IE you can use a mac pro/macbook pro with a secondary output, or you can get a node license which is $500 and runs in full screen mode basically.
The cool thing is you can run a $500 node using a mac mini and remote control that node via ethernet.
We’ve been using their software for a while now.
It works great on a 2.0 Core2 Duo Mini with 1 gig/ram. If you use the HD-DVD H264 10.3 Mbps compression in Compressor it plays great and looks really good at 720 res.
We run 5 node licenses on Mac Minis and a MacBook Pro as a master controling it over cat5 or 802.11G.
Seems like it should do what you want. It also does things like tiling, speed control, color correction, shuttling of course, and it can do grid/collage mapping of content across multiple displays.
Works great, runs verrrry well.Check it out at…
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I’ve been researching the Indigo for a while now; our company is looking at purchasing 5 of them for live/imag use. It should do what you want well, especially with the High-Res card in it.
My biggest issue with it is latency. If you are trying to use the high-res card to upconvert your, lets say, composite or sdi camera to the dvi output, it induces a heavy frame delay, I’d say close to 15 frames or so. Though, if you do native in to native out, IE SDI in/SDI out or composite in/out, the latency with asynchronous sources seems to be under 5 frames, maybe 3 or so. It seems to be even lower with an external genlock.