[Michael Uribe]

This card is the biggest piece of crap.

I’ve emailed Blackmagic with the same problem, and all they say is “oh, check your settings” In other words, its not us, its you, your software, your software capture settings.

So, I’ve updated to the latest 7.5 for my BM Decklink HD Extreme card. I’ve also downloaded the Media Express 2.1.

After rebooting, and “successfully installing” the drivers.
I open both the Media Express, the other Black Magic Media Express 1.1, Vegas, Premiere CS3, Nero Vision, all claim the “capture device has a communication error.”

So I can’t evenbegin to cpture, even at NTSC composite, yes the little yellow cable plugged into 9, or 8, or 7 input connector ends.

well, Media Express and BM Media Express will startup, and all the capture is a black screen, even after swapping all ends of the 9, 8, 7 inputs with my little flimsy composite yellow in from my Canon XH-A1’s output.

I’ve verified the output using my Varizoom 7.5 external monitor.

So, this piece of crap card I’ve had for 2 years now hasn’t worked once. Everytime I get motivated to install it, update the drivers, and spend now over 4 hours tinkering, messing around, etc., all I get is this black bs screen, and Nero, Sony, and Adobe’s Error communicating with device.

Running Windows Vista 64 (is that theproblem, oh, their software must not be so up to date to handle that?) I did notice their media express was installed under x86 applications. Again, piece of crap.
I have a 64 bit, 8GB ram system, and this piece of crap wants to load up like an old x86 32bit application.

Jesus, if I take this card out again, and put it back in the box, I’m putting it on ebay and then maybe somebody with a Blackmagic Computer, and blackmagic camera, and a blackmagic cable, can get something done.

Oh yea, in the above response from a blackmagic rep, he didn’t even have on “up and running” what a joke.

Their help, sucks.

I’d explain this entire thing tothem, and get a “try the video settings” response.

Jackasses.

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[Michael Uribe]

This card is the biggest piece of crap.

I’ve emailed Blackmagic with the same problem, and all they say is “oh, check your settings” In other words, its not us, its you, your software, your software capture settings.

So, I’ve updated to the latest 7.5 for my BM Decklink HD Extreme card. I’ve also downloaded the Media Express 2.1.

After rebooting, and “successfully installing” the drivers.
I open both the Media Express, the other Black Magic Media Express 1.1, Vegas, Premiere CS3, Nero Vision, all claim the “capture device has a communication error.”

So I can’t evenbegin to cpture, even at NTSC composite, yes the little yellow cable plugged into 9, or 8, or 7 input connector ends.

well, Media Express and BM Media Express will startup, and all the capture is a black screen, even after swapping all ends of the 9, 8, 7 inputs with my little flimsy composite yellow in from my Canon XH-A1’s output.

I’ve verified the output using my Varizoom 7.5 external monitor.

So, this piece of crap card I’ve had for 2 years now hasn’t worked once. Everytime I get motivated to install it, update the drivers, and spend now over 4 hours tinkering, messing around, etc., all I get is this black bs screen, and Nero, Sony, and Adobe’s Error communicating with device.

Running Windows Vista 64 (is that theproblem, oh, their software must not be so up to date to handle that?) I did notice their media express was installed under x86 applications. Again, piece of crap.
I have a 64 bit, 8GB ram system, and this piece of crap wants to load up like an old x86 32bit application.

Jesus, if I take this card out again, and put it back in the box, I’m putting it on ebay and then maybe somebody with a Blackmagic Computer, and blackmagic camera, and a blackmagic cable, can get something done.

Oh yea, in the above response from a blackmagic rep, he didn’t even have on “up and running” what a joke.

Their help, sucks.

I’d explain this entire thing tothem, and get a “try the video settings” response.

Jackasses.

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[Michael Uribe]

Perhaps I wasn’t clear.

Scenario begin:
A master timeline exists, where the production will be finalized as one entire feature. However, there are certain venues where the production needs to be broken apart into pieces (the car chase, the love scene, the murder scene, the crash scene, etc.). However, to simply chop out a segment, without having it be bookended with titles/endcredis, is simply too half ass. So the chopped out segments need the original intro, or recreated intros, title screen, and final end credit screens for information and copyright purposes, etc.
Scenario end.

I do discuss the tool you mention, but as I said, that only renders “any and all” regions labeled in a timeline. Then, those rendered Regions are then separately stored as individual video files on the harddrive. So it breaks the timeline apart by Regions.

What I’m looking for, and the previous poster would benefit from, is to have control of which Regions are rendered (that is to select specific Regions, which have been already labeled in the timeline, and then specify the program to then render those regions, in a specific order, and into one final file onto the hard drive.

So Vegas needs to add the following render option to the user:

Render as / by region / specify to join/separate those regions / if joining, then specify order to join those regions / give it a file name.

Heck why not be able to designate output format as well as the user already can do with the simple Render as feature already in the program.

As it is now, I’m rendering the regions on my timeline. (Intro, event 1, event 2, event 3 (modified), event x, end credits, and then re-rendering those clips in another vegas instance, in an order of my choice.

When there are complicated layers in a Region, the idea of cuting, pasting, ripple editing (hoping the audio envelopes, event keys, etc all follow that ripple edit) is just not worth it.

That means one has to then specifically watch each clip, verify nothing was lost, and then drag the freshly rendered Regions onto another time line, in the order preferred, and then, once again, re-render again to simply join them.

Not a very efficient workflow- and I’m not inclined to research a good joiner application. Those seem to be limited to certain video formats (avi, etc). And agin, one has to re-render for that joining process to complete (degrades quality, and increases productino time).

Maybe I’ll create an animation of what the goal is here.

AS it stands now, the Tools – Scripts – Batch – Region option simply finds any and all regions, and individually renders those regions into a bunch of separate files on the hard drive.

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[Michael Uribe]

I’m actually exploring options dealing with the same problem indicated in your post (i.e., timeline segments with multiple layers, need to render in various orders into final timeline without rearranging actual timeline elements.)

I’ve explored this and have come up with a description of the desired task – Render Multiple Timeline Segments – as designated by ?? perhaps regions?

Thus, this desired rendering task is (following are named regions ontop of your timeline):
[Open Title][Interview 1][Interview 2][More stuf x][End Credits]

Now, when you hit the “Render As” option I would like the following options (and not just the “render looped region only” – which is very mickey mouse).

Render as:
1. Looped region
2. Region specific
– Select Regions
– Specify Order of Regions (up, down, etc.)

Then, when you click region specific, it gives you the option to then “click” on a box for each reason to include in the final rendered clip.

Walla, the final rendered once video was then assembled using the “region specific” option – which is not available in Vegas 8.1.

So, what do we do?

I’ve played with the option of using the tools – batch – regions.
This, however, simply cuts up the rendering into region specific clips. Good/bad – bad if as in other responses, if you then take those freshly rendered regions and assemble the into another new timeline and then place them in what ever order you want. Then, you render (unfortunately) again in the identical format you selected to make the region clips.

Now, as the other posters have said, mpeg2 re-rendering, is a lossy process. However, other formats perhaps are not lossy. I am using MainConcepts MP4 at a custom format. Not sure if it is tremendously lossy, at first glance I don’t see it.

So, arrange your timeline where each region has a little black at each end, and at the begin of each new region. That way, each region is rendered with a complete black ending to it, so when the next region is added next to it, the final video will not show a jump in the screen.

I’ve also just added the script below this post to explore whether it will add region specific rendering functionality to the game.

If not, I’m lucky to use the currently available tools/batch/regions/ option on the system and then re-rendering the clips after that. Sure, multiple rendering sucks.

Another Option:

If you feel comfortable or if your project is not that specific, you can then incorporate all the rendered regions (using the tools/batch/regions option) into dVD ARchitect. Then, create a playlist that will play them in the order you want.

Problem with this is that your repeat title will only repeat the segment in the playlist vs. looping your entire timeline as concieved in vegas.

Another problem is that you’ll need to add a good 4-5 seconds black screen at the end of each segment. For some reason, the playlist hopping from one segment to the other seems to loose the end and intros to some stuff I’ve played with using this option.

Like for example, the end credits. Instead of including them in each video segment, use the playlist feature in DVDArch, and then just have each playlist end with that clip. Again, worked, but a little jumpy, and lost the nice fade in because I lost a couple of seconds during the jump, resolved by adding extra black space. But, that “black time” can also be annoying and disrupt the pace of your piece – and that does matter when it matters.

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[Michael Uribe]

Looks like you’all got an angle on the motherboards best used when working with the BM HD Extreme capture board.

I have an Asus Maximus Extreme, and am concerned as to the number of PCIe slots I have and the type required for the board and my XFX 8800 video card – but, don’t forget, I’ll also need to tap into another PCIe slot for the soon to be future external disk array for highspeed storage.

Now, keep in mind I haven’t used the remaining 4 SATA ports on the board, I could extend this to 5 if I remove the CD/DVD drive which I rarely use – where I use externals.

So, any suggestions as I jump on the BlackMagic HD Extreme 2 Boat.

Also, what is the difference between the BM HD Extreme 2 and I guess a non “2” board.

Thanks.

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