[Michael Chick]

Thanx. As I’ve said many times before, I do not like the P2 format…..

Anyway, how did you get the footage to run on Vegas 12?
I didn’t know that it could handle the P2 format, or did you use a plug-in ?

Thanx

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[Michael Chick]

Sorry, was on assignment in Cambodia for a week.
Here’s the short MXF Clip sample:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xfmzc3unacjyed2/TEST.MXF?dl=0

Please let me know if it plays smoothly on your VideoCard.
Thanx

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[Michael Chick]

Sorry, a combination of being overly busy, coupled with the flu over the past few days. (No, definitely not MERS) Will shoot a few seconds of P2, and send it over via dropbox. Need to head out to work right now.
In the meantime, please have a look at one of my older projects here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS3mk83LbnQ

Thanx again

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

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[Michael Chick]

I see. Thanx. That being said, then would it make sense to buy the ASUS 390 card at this juncture then?
My primary problem, which triggered all these questions was that I was have “stuttering problems” trying to view the 1920×1080 P2 Footage in Sony Vegas 13 to begin with. Or would it make more sense to just keep pressing Shift+B to get a decent playback; enough to make the edits for the time being anyway….

Thanx again

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[Michael Chick]

Thanx for the headsup again.
Yes, I changed the case a few years ago, and had the MasterCooler GX750 installed. (pix of box here:
https://www.xbitlabs.com/cms/include/image.php?src=/images/cases/psu-550w-850w/p12.jpg&width=400&height=460&cache=1&quality=100&aspect=0&format=

And as size limits what I can actually fit into the case, the ASUS R9290-DC2OC-4GD5
only requires up to 300W additional 6+8 pin PCIe power required.
( from their website: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/R9290DC2OC4GD5/specifications/ )

Am so glad I checked in with you all here. You’re such a great repository of information.

Gosh, I just noticed something else. Would this PCIE-3 card make a difference when I use it on my PCIE-2 Motherboard, or would it perform no different from my previous Card? ( the ASUS GTX 460 )
Sorry for so many questions…..

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[Michael Chick]

Bummer, I went to the store and found out that the Tri-X Sapphire 290X Card was out of stock, but I guess it was a “Blessing in Disguise”. The Sapphire Tri-X card is 305mm long, while the space available in my Case is only 295mm. The store clerk asked me to also consider the ASUS R9 290X DirectCU II OC. It is 287mm in length. Anyone has any experience between these two cards?

This website seems to suggest a marginal advantage of the ASUS Card, because it comes “overclocked” from the factory….
https://www.legitreviews.com/asus-r9-290x-directcu-ii-sapphire-r9-290x-tri-x-video-card-reviews_132158

Thanx again.

i7-870, ASUS P7P55D-LE,
ASUS GTX-460
SoundBlaster XiFi
16Gb RAM, 120SSD

[Michael Chick]

Thank you so much again. You’ve all been more than helpful. Yea,sometimes we get into the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it mode”. As I mentioned before, I was really happy with my old setup till the 1920×1080 came along. I can live with a slower render, as I can just leave the system on overnight, but having a slow/choppy preview makes it difficult to do a proper edit.

So looks like I’ll be heading to the store to pick the TRI-X R9 290 4G D5 up:
https://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=5458920E-5359-4004-B041-DFA58823AB9E&lang=eng

A followup question would if anyone here has tried using this 290 card for a Hackintosh?

Thanx once again

[Michael Chick]

Thanx for taking time to help out.

Sorry, I made a mistake, I have the i7-870 processor (2.93GHz), and not the i7-860. (marginal difference)
I was hoping to put a few more years into the Motherboard and Processor. The only reason for needing to “upgrade” is that when I first specced out this system, I was running .tod files from my JVC HD-7. So, it was more than sufficient. However, these days, I need to edit in P2, sometimes with 1920×1080 footage. I did click on the “use-proxy”, and it works fine (kinda), but once I start using Magic Bullet Suite-11, and/or Boris Continuum-9, then it displays maybe one frame every 4-6 seconds. CTRL-R helps, but I’m also having problems with color correction. What shows up (even at BEST FULL) is not what the end-render is.

I typically render only at MC 1280×720 mp4 double-pass at 28,000 upper and 14,000 lower.
With zero plugins, it’ll render a 2 minute edit in about 5 minutes, but once all the filters kick in, then it’s something like 2.5hours.

My P7P55D LE does not come with USB 3.0, I had to buy a PCie card to get that going.
On the RAM, this motherboard only supports up to 16Gb, of which I already have at 1600 speed.
I do have a 120Gb SSD, so that’s one less of a problem.

And yes, I plan to do a fresh Windows install once I change the Display Card. I only use a handful of softwares, so it’s not big deal. Plus, the computer always feels more “zippy” whenever I do this.

Last question, the 270X, the 280X or the 290X ?
Of does it matter at all?
(I eventually will change the motherboard and chip, and if I can migrate the display card to the new hardware, then that would be great)

Thank You so much again. You’ve been very helpful.

[Michael Chick]

Hi, I was following your discussion, and came across this comment from Sony’s website:
“…The GTX570/580 will get you the best render performance for the two codecs I mentioned above.
A HD6970 or HD7950 will be almost as fast but also provide better timeline performance with 3rd party plug ins.
A R9 290/290X will give you the best timeline performance but the Mainconcept AVC and Sony AVC codecs don’t support it and your render speed will be as fast as CPU only. On the other hand, MPEG2 encoding is very fast with these cards…”
Taken from here:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?Forum=4&MessageID=915897

I’m looking to buy a new display card, as my ASUS GTX460 is ready to “give up the ghost”. I’m using older equipment, which is the i7-860, 16Gb RAM, and a P7P55D LE. Can any of you hardware-guru’s please help point me in the correct direction?
I’m contemplating between the
SAPPHIRE R9 280 Dual-X 3GB DDR5 384 -bit, the
SAPPHIRE TRI-X R9 290 4GB DDR5 512 -bit/ and the
SAPPHIRE R9 270X TOXIC 2GB GDDR5 256BIT

Based on spec, the Tri-X looks like the highest spec, but has anyone tried these cards, and what would you recommend? Thank You all for your time.